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“Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU” Petition

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NotSpaghetti Thu 21-Mar-19 08:52:48

The government repeatedly claims exiting the EU is 'the will of the people'. Well now there is a petition demonstrating the strength of public support for revoking article 50!

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

Greta Sun 24-Mar-19 11:16:12

sorry: disentangle ourselves...

must improve my proofreading

Greta Sun 24-Mar-19 10:48:41

Kandinsky: If brexit is stopped UKIP ( or worse ) will lap up all the disillusioned leave voters.

Do you really believe the majority of leave voters would turn to UKIP?

RosieLeah: ^ Leavers are realists^...

Pity they didn't realise the mess they were about to create. Mind you, since we were told it was going to be a walk in the park to disentangle us from the EU that is hardly surprising.

suzied Sun 24-Mar-19 10:29:05

I suppose if wed been burning cars and looting shops we'd have more attention, because it was peaceful and friendly its just sneered at. No, it wasn't just "locals", coaches and trains from all over the country, Nicola Sturgeon talked for about 5 minutes and there was over an hour of different speakers, so don't base your impressions on the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.

trisher Sun 24-Mar-19 10:28:51

That's a really good idea Kandinsky UKIP returning would ensure a really right wing party whose objectives are obvious. Much better than the hidden right wing which conceals itself under the guise of caring conservatism whilst pursing extreme right wing policies. It would also split the right wing vote so leaving the way open for a Labour government. So bring it on!

Caledonai14 Sun 24-Mar-19 10:23:43

Petition at 4,901,700.

Caledonai14 Sun 24-Mar-19 10:22:52

The BBC in Scotland are saying this morning that police are saying there were 2 million people on the march, but for some reason the BBC nationally haven't bothered to update their numbers. Sadly the Tory megainfighting has stolen the news headlines today. This won't help the Conservative cause. They should have got Mrs May out when they had the chance and not left it to less than a week before the still-on-the-table (apparently, but sadly) headfirst dive over Brexicliff.

Kandinsky Sun 24-Mar-19 10:21:02

Well yes.
If brexit is stopped UKIP ( or worse ) will lap up all the disillusioned leave voters. All they’ll have to say is; ‘no one listened to your concerns before brexit & no one listened to your referendum result’ - NO ONE CARES!
.....but we do.
Job done.

RosieLeah Sun 24-Mar-19 10:14:56

If Brexit is stopped, it will only be temporary. UKIP will rise again and the whole campaign will start over. Plus, if we stay in and things start to fall apart...us Leavers will smugly say...'We told you so!' We're doing you all a favour and you don't realise. Leavers are realists...Remainers are ostriches who refuse to acknowledge where the EU is headed.

Kandinsky Sun 24-Mar-19 10:09:26

Well it’s a waste of time in as much as it won’t stop brexit, but it’s not a waste of time for those taking part who feel a sense of pride.
Marches in general don’t change much.

MaggieTulliver Sun 24-Mar-19 09:57:02

So 1 million isn't that great a turnout Kandinsky and a complete waste of time? How gracious you are...

maryeliza54 Sun 24-Mar-19 08:46:25

I’m waiting now for someone to argue that they shouldn’t have counted the people in wheelchairs because they weren’t you know actually marching

BlueBelle Sun 24-Mar-19 08:22:00

Oh dear Kandinsky sounds very desperate surprised you didn’t go dah dah Di dah dah and put your finger to your nose
Love the huge crowds following ‘leave means leave’ and that strange beer swilling man, was is it a 100 ?

Kandinsky Sun 24-Mar-19 08:10:18

Hahaha.
Oh the irony.

maryeliza54 Sun 24-Mar-19 08:09:23

If Leave had a large successful March ( ha) I’d just keep quiet and not talk about it - maybe just discuss the price of butter. Sour grapes is not a good look.

maryeliza54 Sun 24-Mar-19 08:07:16

Sour grapes much

Kandinsky Sun 24-Mar-19 08:00:12

I’m glad you all had a good day. smile

However, I’m surprised there wasn’t more people at the march.
Just under a million people is a great turnout, but London is remain central so it was clearly mainly local people.
How many people voted remain?
16 million?
Had the march attracted 3 or 4 million people from all over the country it would have been far more impressive, still a complete waste of time, but more impressive.
From what I saw on the news it seemed to be all about Nicola Sturgeon pushing her own agenda.

maryeliza54 Sun 24-Mar-19 07:47:51

Arguing about the composition of the crowd is a sign of desperation imo - it was enormous - as Leavets like to say to Remainers ‘Get over it’

crystaltipps Sun 24-Mar-19 07:07:17

500,000 on the march weren’t under 5 btw.

crystaltipps Sun 24-Mar-19 07:02:52

“Soft or hard = both shit.” ( from a placard!) I.e. both worse than the deal we already have as a members.

icanhandthemback Sun 24-Mar-19 00:04:07

Greta, it only makes a difference because if we are celebrating that 1 million marched, if 500,000 were say, 5 year old, you could not really count them because they have no idea about it and if there was another vote, their views would not be heard. That was an extreme example but you get my drift.

I don't think all EU nationals should have been allowed to vote but I do agree that EU nationals who have been UK resident and worked for a given number of years or have married a Brit should have had a say. It is a difficult one to decide what the cut off point should be but I would not consider I was "invested" in a country just because I worked in it. Given time, that might change but it wouldn't be an immediate thing. Also, a lot of those who work over here absolutely don't intend to stay forever so I am not sure of the legitimacy of wanting to vote in this country's future.
I have 2 friends who have been in this country for the last 20 years and the last thing I want to do is make them feel unwelcome or unloved. However, that does not mean I want to stay in the EU as it currently stands and that has nothing to do with the way I feel about them.

Kandinsky Sat 23-Mar-19 22:09:40

jura2

I’m not sure what sort of brexit we’ll eventually end up with, but as it won’t be a hard brexit ( no deal ) then by definition it will be a soft brexit.
All sorts of options are being talked about so we’ll just have to wait & see.

jura2 Sat 23-Mar-19 22:08:45

oh andy, you are so bitter.

Kapitan Sat 23-Mar-19 22:02:30

The Guardian should know, it is full of fake news.

jura2 Sat 23-Mar-19 22:00:08

Probably better MargaretX- for Democracy, to have a significant majority- and certainly one not FRAUDULENTLY obtained.

jura2 Sat 23-Mar-19 21:58:58

n the guardian tonight: "There are still a few things in public life that you cannot fake. You can fake photographs and you can fake news. You can fake conviction and you can fake emotions. You can fake a Twitter-petition and you can fake Facebook outrage. But you cannot fake an almighty crowd."