“Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU” Petition

Norway doesn't want the UK in with them. It would make things too difficult. The UK has too many people.

An on-line petition cannot over throw a referendum. Just marching with flags is not democracy. For that you need a proven written majority.

Ah boat I concur. I suppose ‘nowadays’ none of us should totally trust ANY media source. I check plenty. But how do any of us know just who is kidding who?

Scary really.
We see what we see. We post and share. We offer links and quote sources. Should we trust ANY of them? How would any of us form an opinion? Do we think some sites are just conspiracy therories then?

Maybe it was ever thus and we, even in this digital ‘immediate share’ world are just fed nonsense. Who knows really?

andy is that you?

We had a vote, and Remain lost! End of story.

Kandinsky - what does a 'soft Brexit' mean- could you please explain- there are dozens and more of 'soft options' being proposed ba all and sundry. Mostly 'Cake and eat it with unicorns' - eg all the rights of being in the EU, with none of the responsibilities. If there was one clear soft option being proposed, I and 1000s might get behind that.

And how long do you think that perfect 'soft Brexit' - once we know what it is - will take- and the months and months of uncertainty that goes with it.

We could have gone from the very start for a Norway style option- but we didn't. This is what Farage said, again and again - but now is saying he never said it - when there is footage after footage showing him saying just that. And Hannan saying no-one in their right mind would even consider leaving the customs' union and single market - but now he says that he never ever said that- even though there is clear footage showing him saying that, etc, etc.

So 'soft option' what on earth does that mean, in real terms ?!?

The magnificent thing about democracy is that the right to public protest is an integral part of it. It should be exercised freely and often.

I hope she's getting support and protection. What a dreadful reflection on us as a country if we can't have peaceful, lawful protest without death threats.

4,645,080 and rising

And I'd like to point out that the woman who started it was only one person. The rest of us - 4,645,079 so far - freely decided ourselves to put our names to the petition and intimidation is like terrorism...not the way to show you have a good argument.

What are the threateners so afraid of?

Have just read that the 77 year old woman who started the petition has received several phoned death threats. She is very scared but can’t tell her frail husband. Hope she’s getting support.

You can slag off the million who marched, me included, as not accepting a democratic decision, we are entitled to protest in this country and we have democratic elections every few years, it’s not a one off. 3 years is a long time in politics and people should be allowed to vote when knowledge and circumstances change. If you think we have a perfect democracy then having another vote should enhance democracy.

Brexit will never be stopped, I’m certain of that. But it will be a ‘soft’ brexit which is neither here nor there.

No one should accept the result of that fraudulent referendum. Quite enough harm has already been done. It should be stopped.

Democratic - are you sure?!? The Electoral Commission would have overturned it a long time ago due to FRAUD- but are unable to do so because is is, by our own Laws, advisory.

Just been watching the so called People's March today. One million people who cannot accept the democratic decision to leave.

Icanhandthemback: But, just because they are marching, it doesn’t mean they are all eligible to vote.

What difference does that make? No doubt some marchers were too young to vote in 2016 and some are too young now. Even more important for them then to have a say since the future is theirs. Also, some demonstrators will be EU-nationals who were of course not allowed to vote. They have the right to be heard as well.

The other day I met with three elderly ladies. They were all Scandinavian and had arrived in the UK in the 1950's. All had married British men, all had worked for many years, paid their taxes and NI contributions. Two of them were nurses and one had worked as a teacher. Now they are being told they have to apply for 'settled status'. They are worried. But more than that they no longer feel welcome. Should this happen in a democratic society?

OK that's it over the 4,500,000. Keep going.

Urmstongran

I don't know the woman who started the petition (I can't even remember her name) and I don't know the facts about what she put on her FB page. However I would gently and respectfully suggest that you don't know the facts either, just what some reports have said and we all know we have to be a bit careful now-a-days.

It just seems to me a little bit unlikely that she would be stupid enough to hand the Leave faction a handle like this; even if that's what she thinks.

It's now approaching four and a half million and holds the record for the largest such petition of all time.

What is it that the Leavers fear? They insist that it is democracy in action for Brexit to happen although it was a tiny majority. They make up stories about a petition (Does it really matter who started it?) and their reports that there were loads of fake signatures has been proved wrong. They now apparently question the marchers in London. Could it be that they actually know that another referendum would not go their way? That they want to get Brexit over asap because otherwise it might not happen? That what they want is not democracy but expediency? Something that smacks more of dictatorship.

It is of course totally obvious that the approx 1 million marching in London today are more or less all Russian trolls ;)

But, just because they are marching, it doesn’t mean they are all eligible to vote.

Awaiting for facts rather than hearsay.

But even if- it makes no difference that 4.3 million people have clearly chosen to sign, because this is what they truly want to happen.

It is of course totally obvious that the approx 1 million marching in London today are more or less all Russian trolls ;)

I've looked at the Guido Fawkes site owned by Paul Staines a committed Brexiteer. It's like a political comic book with text which is very difficult to read.

Not sure about Staines' very right wing motives, but if it's not true, then it won't be the first time he's faced a lawsuit (Allegedly.) At Uni he was a member of a Conservative group that was so right-wing it was disbanded by Margaret Thatcher.

However, if it's true Ms Georgiadou will clearly be investigated by the police. If it's true why was it not investigated when first discovered? Takes us back to our debate about threats to public figures.

Still, it seems the woman who started this petition has been found to have extreme views about the members of the Cabinet - several months ago.

I think the government will get the message with the numbers marching in London today. No need to register a vote to be there.

Well this is getting murky. She says her FB page had been hacked in the last 10 hours.

Yet this from Guido - from way back in January (ie before the purported ‘hacking’) ....

Remainers and Leavers alike have been getting a little too excited about the Revoke Article 50 Petition. Yes, you can sign it as many times as you like with made up email addresses and whatever name and country you care to put in. Yes, there are videos online explaining in detail how to use bots to hijack Parliamentary petitions – exactly what happened with the second referendum petition immediately after the referendum. Is it actually going to stop Brexit? No, that will be MPs…

The creator of the petition is a certain Margaret Anne Georgiadou, who went on LBC to discuss the petition this afternoon. Now Guido can reveal a series of shocking posts from her on Facebook where she makes repeated death threats against Theresa May. She even discusses in detail with fellow Remainers how to purchase “legal” guns and go to the House of Commons.

In January, Georgiadou wrote about how she hoped that May would kill herself. In two further comments that now appear to have been deleted, she described May (or possibly Andrea Leadsom) as a “creature” that “needs putting down” and threatened to shoot May “point blank”.