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“Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU” Petition

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NotSpaghetti Thu 21-Mar-19 08:52:48

The government repeatedly claims exiting the EU is 'the will of the people'. Well now there is a petition demonstrating the strength of public support for revoking article 50!

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

icanhandthemback Thu 21-Mar-19 23:01:40

Anyway, why are you bothered, Leavers? I thought that you think that cheating is absolutely fine in our democracy

That is just offensive. Why do you have to be so inflammatory?

MaizieD Thu 21-Mar-19 22:55:06

It might help if those signing were actually resident in the U.K.

Also UK citizens living, or working, or on holiday abroad and absolutely entitled to sign. 'Abroad' could be anywhere in the world because, believe it or not, modern technology (mobile phones, internet and satellites) makes the UK government petition website accessible from just about everywhere.

If you look at the underlying data you'll see that most signings from 'abroad' are very low in number in individual countries. More commensurate with Brits abroad than with bots.

Anyway, why are you bothered, Leavers? I thought that you think that cheating is absolutely fine in our democracy hmm

jura2 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:31:30

nothing wrong with not being in UK- if you have contributed all your life to the UK and are dependent on your hard-earned UK pensions. Why should we not be able to sign.

jura2 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:30:13

yes, British expats from all over the world - fair enough I say.

Urmstongran Thu 21-Mar-19 21:10:19

It might help if those signing were actually resident in the U.K.

paddyann Thu 21-Mar-19 20:24:40

the only "evil dictatorship" we're in is the Westminster one.Chief clown Teresa May ....her deal or no deal ! Everyone can be included as long as they're the DUP.

trisher Thu 21-Mar-19 20:08:54

Signed and shared!

Ginny42 Thu 21-Mar-19 20:08:08

It's back up now.

Day6 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:47:01

Don't get too excited.

The petition has been FLOODED with fake signatures from all over the world. Investigation is on-going.

hmm

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:43:54

17.4 million votes out your numbers mean nothing

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:43:01

means nothing actually

your false hope

MaizieD Thu 21-Mar-19 19:40:45

1,250,000+ signatures

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:28:38

out we go in law...simple

all will be fine

I feel no need to fret or get uptight

grin

NfkDumpling Thu 21-Mar-19 18:29:50

Not there yet Andy

I have no objection to another referendum provided its the same as before - In or Out. Then a second one to see which out we want.

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 18:25:46

me too joel and umrmston... great posts, we re so close to default WTO no EU deal...

out we go.
I look forward to UK being not in an evil dictatorship.

I am so elated

grin
grin
party

Joelsnan Thu 21-Mar-19 18:16:19

I agree Urmstongran

Urmstongran Thu 21-Mar-19 17:51:21

I don’t think there will be a second referendum.

However, we’re there to be one (unlikely) there will be much squabbling as to the question on the ballot paper.

Don’t try to split the Leave vote by offering more than one choice for Leavers. That way Remain know they’d romp it with just their one choice!

The only fair way would be to ask Remain or Leave on WTO. I think Leave would win by a landslide.

Joelsnan Thu 21-Mar-19 17:24:47

Wheniwasyourage
I would imagine the majority of leavers have no issue with another referendum. The issue is though the majority of leavers and indeed quite a number of remainers believe in democracy and accept the democratic outcome of the initial referendum.
If you remember, the people of the Republic of Ireland held a democratic referendum and voted against the Lisbon Treaty (the UK was promised a referendum then but the government then reneged). They were told to rerun the referendum until they got the result the EU wanted which they did. Is this democracy or dictatorship?
If those who shout loudest are allowed to overturn majority democratic decisions this opens up our society to potential oppression and dictatorship.
Consider the current LGBT teaching argument. In some instances the loudest shouters are getting their way even though the majority are enlightened enough to know that humanity is not binary.

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 17:12:23

I love petitions and marches that actually achieve nothing, nada, not a sausage....

whoop whoop out we go next week, it is in law that is fact...

party
party

wine

Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Mar-19 17:05:34

What I don't understand (and it's probably been said on lots of threads now, as I have given up reading most of the politics ones) is this. Why are leavers, including Theresa May, who says she is with the people, so reluctant to have another vote to be sure that the people actually do want to go with her deal, or even no deal, or remain? If there were another referendum with a majority again to leave, I don't think there would be much argument about it, as that would be a vote based on what we now know.

Gmum Thu 21-Mar-19 16:57:40

It was not a vote it was a referendum no legal standing, that was nearly 3 years ago. What is the time limit for a referendum because if there is one its now out of date. If we kept on about votes and will of the people there would not be a general election, which also has a time limit or no new party would be elected. Time this stale referendum was reviewed, and a time limit put on it. Its getting boring hearing the 'The will of the people' chant, now we know the first one was manipulated and a whole pack of lies told to the uk citizens. The NSH is still struggling none of the issues have been addressed and lets stop blaming the EU, its the british government who set the laws in british law, not the EU. Blair government passed the Human Rights law in the uk not the EU and complicated our lives.

adaunas Thu 21-Mar-19 16:50:58

The problem really is that nothing is trustworthy. People don’t trust the first result, the politicians, the EU etc. How will we know this is trustworthy.
Also, I don’t understand this. One of my relatives moved abroad in his twenties and has no intention of ever living in the UK again, but still thinks he should be able to have a say in decisions for the UK.

Gmum Thu 21-Mar-19 16:50:56

Very strange site is down under maintenance, sounds like brexit lol, Yes will sign its time remainers had a voice.

icanhandthemback Thu 21-Mar-19 16:48:29

I think you'll find 17 million people effectively signed to leave 2 years ago. I heard a statistic that 30 million didn't sign to leave. Well, they had enough warning, could have voted but chose to derelict their duty as a citizen of the UK. Whilst I don't think Mrs May has handled this very well, I don't think anybody would have done much better and I certainly think that there are political shenanigans afoot to frustrate the original vote which overshadows whether the deal is a good one or not. This has certainly alerted me to the lack of true democracy in this country.

tanith Thu 21-Mar-19 16:42:40

Kadinsky it’s a petition of over a million signatures now and even if as you seem to think half of them are false it should still trigger a debate. That’s all it does is trigger a debate.