“Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU” Petition

Lily65 I'd like to know where there is an anarchist enclave as well. If Brexit goes ahead I might just join them.

And varian we just all enjoy basing the BBC. Yesterday morning on Andrew Marr his 3 guests were David Gauke (Remain), John Major (Remain) and Tom Watson (not sure - is anybody) who was promoting a second referendum. Biased much?
Aargh!!

Actually Alexa could I politely say us Leavers did know what we were voting for! The biggest problem is the Establishment don’t want us to have it and 400 Remain MPs are determined not to give it to us!

P.S. The £350mn on the side of that bus is now £419mn a week. To spend every week on whatever we wanted. (Not necessarily the NHS and we understood that too!).

I turned on BBC Radio 4 this morning and was pleased to hear it announced that today the petition signed by 6, 030,100 people is due to be debated in parliament.

They then interviewed three MPs - an ERG (as always), and a Tory and a Labour MP each proposing different kinds of Brexit. That was it. There was no spokesman from any other party and most importantly none to speak for the millions who want to revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

The pro-brexit bias of the BBC is utterly scandalous. I keep hoping that at some time they might acknowledge what has been clear for a long time - that most people do not want any kind of brexit because of the irrevocable damage it would do to our country, instead of which they keep promoting it, regardless of all the evidence.

It was not the fault of the 1.4 million who were defrauded by the way the 2016 referendum was done. They did not know precisely what they were voting for. (The lie about the NHS getting more money was not the only misinformation. )

'Leave' as we now see means so many different sorts of Leave that even experienced politicians are having trouble
with Leave. Not fair to blame voters who thought that Leave was a simple affair.

Lemongrove

Didn't you see my post about the number of Remain voters being 16.1 million and that the Leave majority was only 1,4 million? Effectively this country is in absolute turmoil because of 1.4 million people.

Varian says... ‘As we can all tell from the stridency and desperation of the pro Brexit posters on Gransnet’.......oh the brass neck of that comment from a poster who never misses a chance to insult and vilify 17.4 million people.

No Varian the stridency and desperation is all yours as you realise that leaving the EU is on the way.

I discovered JO’B when I more or less gave up on the BBC. His book has been a best seller. I actually marginally prefer Shelagh Fogerty who follows him and does some very good political interviews. She is always well briefed but takes no prisoners when interviewing politicians. I think I would say that she is imo the best interviewer of politicians at the moment.

Thanks for flagging up James O'Brien Dinahmo. I also have only recently discovered him as I'm not a regular listener to phone-ins. He tells it like it is. It would be very easy for him to make fun of the inarticulate confused leave voters who phone in, but he doesn't. He does challenge their arguments and corrects things which are untrue, but he makes it clear that he is targetting the Leave Liars who campaigned for this brexit nonsense, and not the decent folk who were fooled by the lies.

He is now getting an increasing number of people phoning to say they realise they were fooled and should never have believed the lies, but there is still some way to go. As we can all tell from the stridency and desperation of the pro-brexit posters on Gransnet, it is much easier to fool people than it is to get them to admit they have been fooled.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kakRJvyZ5eA

Lemongrove - you are right in commenting that us Remainers are having a last gasp attempt.

To all of you - try listening to James O'Brien on LBC. On Friday morning he read a list of various activities, printed in the press over many years, that the EU were supposedly trying to ban. Most of them are amusing but have found their way into the country's psyche as being true.

Let's not forget that BJ was responsible for some of them, including straight bananas. This was subsequently debunked but it was still spouted by a woman in the audience at a Question Time recording last year - to much derision from the audience.

PS I have no connection to James O'Brien having on recently discovered his programme.

Where would I find an anarchist enclave ?

Disinterested = nothing to gain either way

Uninterested = can't be bothered even thinking about it

Fair point varian but I was thinking that the "disinterested" statement was aimed directly at a question put by maizie.
However my dilemma over the choice of words is still unresolved because knowing how proud she is of her language skills I' m sure GG just have considered her comment carefully.

No-one could call GG disinterested as far as brexit goes. We all know only too well where her sympasthies lie, and I doubt whether she is really uninterested either as she keeps repeating the same quitter propaganda.

Is that "disinterested" or uninterested? Interesting dilemma.

*if of

Sweet of you to ask MD but I'm far too disinterested in your point if view to respond.
I'm sure you can make up a suitable one yourself, one that fits in with your skewed vision of leavers.

Revoking Article 50 is the most popular of any Brexit option with the public, a bombshell poll suggests today.

The survey of 1,010 people found 36% want to abandon leaving the EU entirely, despite the nation voting by 52% to 48% to leave in the 2016 referendum.

The second most popular option was to crash out with no deal on April 12 unless the EU makes further concessions - a choice backed by 26% of people.

Those options were followed by 'Don't Know' on 13% and backing Theresa May's deal on 12%.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-more-third-people-back-14212979

Even more impressive is the poll of 15,585 readers of The Times and The Sunday Times who were asked last week "should the UK revoke article 50?" and 73% said "YES"

Can you prove your assertion GG 54?
The underlying data just says how many signatures come from each constituency. So which constituencies are anarchist hotbeds?

Goodness, you lot are desperate..

Plenty of insults hurled at remain supporters. Many of them from the very people that claim to be insulted. Some lovely person was carrying gallows with a noose on at the pro brexit march. Nice.

anarchist enclaves what are we stuck in the 1920s? Someone send at once for Poirot the servants are revolting!

Most of those 'signatures' were garnered from places where there are usually large 'youth' movements and anarchists enclaves.
Anything for notoriety.

I have 4 email addresses for different aspects of my life.
I could sign anything multiple times and so could anyone, therefore the numbers could be significantly and falsely inflated.

Ah! Another insult I see.
mcem... I can take nothing that you say to me seriously, as you have always taken issue with me, I think at some point and on some subject back in the mists of time on GN
You have chosen to be offended by something I posted.
It’s not just this thread ( insults hurled at fellow GNers who voted Leave) but on many many threads in the almost 3 years since the referendum.It’s childish and tiresome, and posters really should pack it in.

I am sorry to see that honest criticism is being conflated with outright insults.
I am disappointed that a post which was very clearly about some ( and in one case about one specific brexit marcher ) is distorted into an overwhelming insult covering everyone who voted to leave.

Perhaps reading the thread, including preceding posts and working within a context, might make the argument more logical instead of just jumping and mindlessly hollering "insult".

Little of what you say lemongrove would go over the head of rational posters, as most of your posts are eminently predictable and transparent.