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No one to vote for if a General Election was called now

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MamaCaz Fri 29-Mar-19 09:46:10

I am sure that I am not alone in feeling that if a General Election was called right now, I would be totally stumped.

Despite what some will have deduced from my posts on the political threads, I am not a dyed-in-the-wool socialist, and have been known to vote both Labour and Conservative in past elections. I suppose that makes me a floating voter, though I am more swayed by how the party in power has behaved over the last term of office than I am by any unrealistic promises of what wonderful things they 'will' do after the election.
That is why,based on what I saw in Cameron's first term in office, I certainly wasn't prepared to vote Tory in 2015, or in 2017 when May called the election.

But who to vote for?

Labour would almost certainly get my vote now if it had a half-decent leader, but it has become increasingly obvious that under Corbyn, Labour stands little or no chance of winning an election, and even if they did, I think that chaos would ensue. It would be a disaster.
In fact, if they had a decent leader, I think that there is a strong chance that they would already be back in power.

Yet in my area (Leadsom's constituency), Labour is the only party that stands any chance whatsoever (with a miracle) of getting even close to challenging the Conservatives, who got over 62% of the vote in 2017.

The Lib Dems are showing little sign of recovery (is this their own failing, or are the media to blame for not allowing them enough coverage?)

In the absence of a system of PR, a vote for the smaller parties just feels like a totally wasted vote, in my region, anyway!

Everything considered, right now, if pushed, I would probably vote Lib Dem, for the simple reason that they have been against Brexit all along - it really angers me when (mostly) Tory brexiteers claim that all votes for both Labour and Conservative in 2017 count as support for Brexit, as if that was the only policy on their manifestos.

At least voting Lib Dem would remove my vote from that count, which has to be better than nothing.
Without even that option, I would feel totally disenfranchised!

Does anyone else feel the same?

Anniebach Fri 29-Mar-19 20:07:43

Sin Fein may take their seats if Corbyn was PM, it was reported recently. They could always do as some MP’s do when taking the oath of allegiance, crossed their fingers etc.

Overthehills Fri 29-Mar-19 23:01:13

Anybody but SNP is worth considering. But I definitely will vote/spoil my paper.

gillybob Fri 29-Mar-19 23:15:19

Reading this thread it seems that all of us who live in these “safe seats” whether they be labour or conservative are on “a hiding to nothing” . It doesn’t matter what we vote at all. They are so complacent it doesn’t matter at all to them.
I truly despair.

Cosmos Sat 30-Mar-19 06:46:10

This whole sorry shambles I can't even say the name, has left me disgusted with the lot of them both sides. I could never bring myself to vote labour, but disgusted with the Tories, so I would spoil my paper. They have all betrayed the country by petty squabbling. Europe is in turmoil, only two countries solvent yet all they have concentrated on is the small things that could have easily been sorted. The only voice of reason was the former Bank of England, King. The former one doesn't give a jot.
I hope there isn't a general election, people might vote Corbyn in, if he ever emerges with an opinion, then we would all be jumping ship.
I am disgusted and feel betrayed by the government. We were a shining example of our democracy, yet people seem determined to have a dictatorship.

Anja Sat 30-Mar-19 06:50:55

I don’t live in a safe seat. Our labour MP got in by a whisker in the last election and he’ll get my vote again.

Labour holds no fears for me as it seems to do with many on GN. I’d go with Jeremy over any of the likely new Tory leaders.

NfkDumpling Sat 30-Mar-19 07:16:19

Probably Monster Raving Looney.

Sarahmob Sat 30-Mar-19 07:19:10

I live in a safe Tory constituency so my vote is always a wasted vote. I will always choose to vote because I think that if I don’t I have no legitimate right to moan about the government and because of what other women went through in order to win that right for me. But who to vote for, I have no idea!

Calendargirl Sat 30-Mar-19 07:47:49

I name Andrew Percy, Conservative M.P. For Brigg and Goole, (not my M.P. ) as one with integrity and trustworthy. He always seems to talk common sense and really seems to be in the job for the right reasons.

NfkDumpling Sat 30-Mar-19 08:06:01

No vote is a wasted vote. Even if the candidate you vote for looses their deposit it indicates how big the opposition is to the winner. Even a load of spoiled papers indicates contempt for the contestants.

Cindersdad Sat 30-Mar-19 08:06:28

I've heard sentiments from life long Tory and Labour supporters who feel that they can no longer support either main party. As a long standing Liberal Democrat I shall vote for my LibDem candidate even though he/she has little chance under FPTP.

Like many I'd like to see PR but do not subscribe to the view that voting for a loosing candidate is a wasted vote. Also I feel that "Tactical Voting" forced on us FPTP distorts the views of the electorate, this would not be needed under PR.

The only wasted vote is a vote not exercised, if you cannot vote for your chosen party due to having no candidate then spoil your ballot paper by writing "None of the above". That at least shows your dissatisfaction.

I accept that PR would never give a majority government but that would stop unpopular policies that have little or no support and force concensus on government. Expensive switches from left to right and back on change of government would be avoided.

With PR there would have been no Poll Tax, Iraq War or Referendum to leave the EU. All these were very costly mistakes. True with PR you would not only get more LibDems and Greens but also some UKIP.

Ginny42 Sat 30-Mar-19 08:59:21

I don't understand the idea of spoiling a vote. When the voting papers are counted there is no way of knowing those spoilt deliberately and those spoilt accidentally. There isn't a category for 'none of the above', so what's the point? Have I misunderstood?

Deed5y Sat 30-Mar-19 09:19:45

Is there nothing we can do to persuade the Labour Party into ousting JC and getting someone we could be confident in voting for standing instead?

4allweknow Sat 30-Mar-19 09:21:23

Not a clue who I would vote for at present. Think the whole lot are useless other than for shouting. I note the comment on SNP. For the life of me I can't figure why they are a No for Brexit when, had or if, they gained independence will be out of the EU anyway. All parties are just so self obsessed at the moment.

Anniebach Sat 30-Mar-19 09:22:00

Nothing we can do, we can’t take on the Unions and Momentum.

Witzend Sat 30-Mar-19 09:27:17

Where I live it's always a fairly close call between LDs and Tories - Labour come nowhere (not that I'd ever help to put Corbyn in Number Ten anyway) - so I'd vote LD.

I would never NOT vote, though I don't mind admitting that just once in the past I was so fed up with the whole shambolic lot of them, I voted for the Monster Raving Loony bloke.

Fletcher1 Sat 30-Mar-19 09:28:40

Totally agree none of them seem capable wouldn't know who to vote for

Anja Sat 30-Mar-19 09:28:50

The choice, if there is an election, is stark and simple. The LibDems don’t stand a chance. The SNP in Scotland offers a viable party.

In England and Wales the choice is more of the same; the NHS in crisis, education ditto, police ditto, and so on, or Labour. All this propaganda against Corbyn doesn’t alter the fact that Labour does offer a viable alternative. Just look at their Manifesto. There is so much on there that is just plain good common sense and in the interests of this country and many of us.
But why am I wasting my breath, or rather my typing finger. People will believe what they want to believe and are so easily taken in by media hype....that’s how that ’Moron in the White House’ got himself elected wasn’t it?

ickle Sat 30-Mar-19 09:33:01

Only a BREXIT party standing in my area will get my vote!

varian Sat 30-Mar-19 09:33:32

Perhaps HM will save us!

varian Sat 30-Mar-19 09:34:14

HM knows what most British people want

GranJan60 Sat 30-Mar-19 09:36:27

Yes - feel exactly the same. Tory stronghold here-though many v angry at our ERG MP. Have hopes that one of the new parties Renew or Change might get themselves together to fight although probably won’t have anyone here. Will probably vote LibDem as least worst!

Marieeliz Sat 30-Mar-19 09:41:01

Cannot understand people saying "I am a lifelong voter of a certain party" surely you should consider the candidates policies at each GE and choose the best fit. I am a floating voter. Though where I live for the reason stated Labour get in anyway. "My Dad always voted Labour" so I do is often said around here.

Marieeliz Sat 30-Mar-19 09:43:23

Just an add on I would be more worried about Mcdonald than Corby. He is just waiting in the wings

Aspen Sat 30-Mar-19 09:46:08

My MP is Chris Greying who is in a very, very safe seat.
Promises are always being made that the fptp unfair system will be changed. How can these politicians be made to fulfil their manifestos.

varian Sat 30-Mar-19 09:53:10

They can't