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Order! Order! these MPs could learn a thing or two from my GC

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NannyFinn Fri 29-Mar-19 15:18:59

I can't help but think the House of Commons could benefit from a bit of granny discipline. Half the things I say to my grandchildren I could quite easily say to one of these MPs at the moment!
I often tell my GS if he can't play nicely, he won't get any dessert - so, I say: no cheap Eton Mess from the canteen for these MPs until they learn to play nicely!
Anyone else have any granny discipline to offer these politicians?

icanhandthemback Sat 30-Mar-19 12:00:43

The whole system is a shambles and definitely needs bringing into the 21st century. I wonder what would happen if we all just decided not to vote in a General Election as a public protest? Of course that will never happen but it would be a big fat raspberry to the system!

winterwhite Sat 30-Mar-19 11:57:44

Really I think some of this a bit harsh! Though agree about the empty green benches.
I think that most MPs do have the interests of the country at heart. Trouble is that they differ fundamentally as to what that is. Result of long years of pernicious two-party politics that seems to be at last imploding.
Also imposs to discuss in the abstract. The current situation would try any MP to the limit. Just look how angry and outspoken the political threads on Gnet have become lately.
And indeed this current one. I find it ugly. Most backbenchers are powerless and frustrated. Can’t we cut them a bit of slack.

Anniebach Sat 30-Mar-19 11:50:44

I am an ordinary person, she ‘whoever she is’ isn’t speaking for me.

I thought the mocking of Mrs May’s loss of voice by a SNP
MP was nasty

varian Sat 30-Mar-19 11:40:36

I think the point is that Eve Alcock represents the ordinary person observing these antics with disgust.

Jalima1108 Sat 30-Mar-19 11:35:37

This week, as two members of Parliament interrupted a debate on Brexit to rib each other about the elite boarding schools they attended four decades ago, 23-year-old Eve Alcock looked on with deep disgust.
From the New York Times?
I'm sorry, but I have no idea who Eve Alcock is - is she British, American? Living in New York?

Viewed from the perspective of the UK, the American political scene seems far from perfect itself.

For all its faults, I prefer our form of democracy.

Nonnie Sat 30-Mar-19 10:40:54

Behaving like toddlers who want something and will scream and shout until they get it.

This Grandma would tell them that it is rude to interrupt and ganging up on others is very unpleasant. I would suggest that they think about how they would feel if someone did it to them.

I think they should be there for all Brexit debates simply because it is such a big issue. However, realistically, for other times when perhaps they don't have a lot to contribute they could be sitting in important committees.

In court when the jury cannot agree it goes to a retrial, maybe it is time to do that.

Craftycat Sat 30-Mar-19 10:31:07

TBH I despair at their antics. I hope they realise that we will not forget all this next time there is an election. I think more people have seen what happens in the Commons over the last few months than ever before & it is a shambles.
They are all just out to ensure their own future position & I don't trust any of them anymore. I certainly will never vote for my own MP again following his betrayal of his party.
I was brought up to always vote as people died for my right to cast a vote & I have never missed a single election but TBH next time- I cannot bring myself to vote for another party -so I am considering just writing 'none Of the above ' on the slip.
If we all did this they might get the message.

maryeliza54 Sat 30-Mar-19 10:13:10

ab this ‘joke’ was played out in public in the Chamber at a time of great national importance. It was an ‘in-joke’ that only a select priveleged group would fully understand initiated by a man who is so principled that he changed his mind 4 times in 18 hours on how he was going to vote.You laugh if you want to but many of us ( and that would include Leavers and Tories as well) might feel that ‘this ‘joke’ was totally unacceptable and actually quite sneery in the context - and not remotely funny.

Anniebach Sat 30-Mar-19 10:06:06

What rubbish, two MP’s shared a joke , that’s it’s

varian Sat 30-Mar-19 10:01:22

From the New York Times-

"This week, as two members of Parliament interrupted a debate on Brexit to rib each other about the elite boarding schools they attended four decades ago, 23-year-old Eve Alcock looked on with deep disgust.

The whole world of Britain’s Parliament — its effete codes of conduct, its arcane and stilted language, its reunions of Oxbridge school chums — seemed impossibly remote from the real, unfolding national crisis of Brexit, the process of extricating the country from the European Union.

“We’re in the middle of a national emergency, and you have schoolboys squabbling about who went to the best school in the House of Commons,” she said. “It’s almost as if they are operating in this complete alternate reality.”

www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/world/europe/uk-brexit-democracy-may.html

allule Sat 30-Mar-19 09:59:23

The whole setup is archaic...I get so incensed at the time it takes for a simple vote. Make the buildings a tourist attraction; put the MPs in a modern building designed for purpose, and perhaps their behaviour would come up to date.

gerry86 Sat 30-Mar-19 09:56:25

They are an absolute disgrace and I for one am going to find it very difficult to vote again after seeing their behaviour.

Annaram1 Sat 30-Mar-19 09:34:00

Or their swanky Rolls Royces.

Annaram1 Sat 30-Mar-19 09:33:35

How sad it all is. I'm sure that if we had a party of Grans we would be able to get Brexit sorted in no time. It really can't be that difficult to come to some agreement.
As for the sea of green benches. that constantly shocks me. We are paying these people to sit there and come to some conclusion and they don't seem to want to, just show themselves occasionally and then beetle off back home as fast as their little legs will carry them.

Anniebach Sat 30-Mar-19 09:18:13

It’s all ‘my way or no way’ but they are all going different ways.

Marieeliz Sat 30-Mar-19 09:16:22

Trust some lefty to bring left and right into it. This post was discussing parliament as a whole not just one side Redhead 59. They all act in the same way. Not one of them have the countries interest at heart ALL self serving?

nannypiano Sat 30-Mar-19 09:15:19

Don't get me started or we will be here until after Brexit.

4allweknow Sat 30-Mar-19 09:12:55

Aren't they just like chikdren who aren't getting their own way. Shout and demand what they want. On the current issue they all know what they think won't work but no-one has come up with anything that will work for them all and the great big parents in Europe. Definitely should be grounded though their Easter break has been cancelled. Wonder how much that will cost us!

BRedhead59 Sat 30-Mar-19 09:08:08

We think they are fully occupied with BREXIT but actually, behind the back door, they are creating new grammar schools, selling off the NHS, creating more families in poverty and salting their own money away offshore.

Jalima1108 Fri 29-Mar-19 23:15:43

They should be grounded , stay in there until they reach an agreement
All of them. No excuses, no phones, no pudding until they've done their homework! Sorry, reached an agreement.

Seriously, the sea of green benches is astonishing, especially when something of vital importance is being debated.

Anniebach Fri 29-Mar-19 21:27:19

They should be grounded , stay in there until they reach an agreement

Luckygirl Fri 29-Mar-19 21:13:18

Not only that but the sea of green benches with no bums on is very obvious on TV.

Stansgran Fri 29-Mar-19 19:02:10

Worst thing that ever happened is televising Parliament. We now know what self centred egotistical boors the majority are. Their puce overfed and wined faces on afternoon tv. Sitting clutching and scanning their expensive iPhones when others are speaking. Baying and howling like the hound of the Baskervilles on speed. We pay these people. We do not deserve them. We should make sure everyone of them loses their seat at the next election. Aux armes citoyennes de Gransnet.

EllanVannin Fri 29-Mar-19 18:45:12

I can hear my mother's dulcet tones now saying "you'll be going to bed early if you don't play nicely."

NannyFinn Fri 29-Mar-19 16:14:29

I can't imagine any of them will to share the conch jura2