Dominic Grieve

No not a typo - an example of how nasty it is.

go Grieve

a most anti UK horrid individual... vile to the greatest extent

his constituency voted leave... what is he on a huge EU pension..I bet he is

Grandad My father was an active Labour supporter and union activist, as such, I know many "grass roots" Labour and union members - many are concerned at the takeover of their party by extreme left wingers.

I think Grieve is finished as a Conservative now, he will have to join the other breakaways on the naughtystep of ‘never to be heard from or voted for again’ independents.

jura2.........oh the irony of your post!
You complain that *craftyone’ has called Soubry ‘sodbury’
And then call her crappyone

I should think that sodbury is a typo, as she (craftyone) then calls Soubry sosbury, so is your calling her crappyone a typo too?

I am not religious but I pray that somebody or some people with integrity will come to the fore. ( if that makes any sense)

I feel that if the Brexit crisis is resolved without a General Election needing to be called, then Jeremy Corbyn will stand down as Labour leader well before the next scheduled General Election.

The polices and governance of the Parliamentary Labour party
and the broader movement brought in under him will remain the same I feel

In other words, change of leader but nothing else.

Don’t TIG support a (so-called) People’s Vote? They’ll need to be more than a one trick pony though

Early Days - and if more join then it could take a while.

What a mess it all is.

Jalima1108 Quote[ Momentum took over the Labour Party, it seems that UKIP could be taking over the Conservatives - perhaps the newly formed Change UK Party will gain a lot more members.] End Quote.

Jalima1108, I believe you could be correct in the above, but we have yet to see what those twelve very diverse politicians who make up the new Change Party have to agree on as basic policy of that party.

That is yet to be brought forward?

Yes, Beckett, the Labour party did offer reduced subscription fees to new members. However, real change in the Labour party came from grassroots activists in the trade union movement who were affiliated to the party through the broader Labour movement in the country.

They were at the base of the formation of Momentum, and many had also directly held longtime affiliation through their trade union branches in many District and Constituency Labour parties.

They became much more active and determined to bring about change when after twelve years of Blairite government those activists felt they had been totally ignored by that administration.

So, change was brought about starting at District and Constituency level, and the rest is now history.

The situation with the current infiltration of the Conservative party is I feel much different, and much more sinister.

Momentum took over the Labour Party, it seems that UKIP could be taking over the Conservatives - perhaps the newly formed Change UK Party will gain a lot more members.

I think we're having a taste of the Ukipisation of the tory party on this thread with some extremely unpleasant things being said about some MPs because they favour Remain.

We are not a fascist state yet, where no-one is allowed to dissent from the 'party line', though some people seem to wish that we are.

That was to maryeliza, another post appeared in between.

Apologies - typo should be minority (but perhaps my original comment is more accurate!)

Ah, I see, thank you

Sadly the Conservative party membership is small and elderly and so those who voted to deselect him are in the monority compared to the number of his constituents

Ukipization means former members of UKIP joining the Tory party as is alleged to have happened in Beaconsfield. So a different group of members involved in no confidence vote than in 2017 reselection.

Grandad - did not the Labour party "encourage" people to join by giving cheap membership - and then used the Momentum members to attempt to deselect anyone who disagreed with Corbyn and his masters Momentum

No, no Grandad, I was agreeing with your previous post.

And then commenting on the amazing rudeness by another poster who called Anna 'Sodbury'.

The media have called it the "Ukipization" of the Tory party
Grandad - I don't understand it at all - as I said in my post above UKIP gained only 4.8% in Beaconsfield.
What do they think they're doing there?

The Conservative association in his Beaconsfield constituency said it no longer had confidence in the former attorney general after he put his case to members at a meeting last night.
Urmston

Dominic Grieve gained 55.4% of the vote in the last general election - way in front of the Lib Dem and Labour candidates at around 20% each and UKIP on 4.8%.

These de-selections and threatened de-selections beg the question - do these constituency associations, in this case the Conservative association in Beaconsfield, think they know better than all the constituents who voted for their preferred candidates in the General Election? Do they have too much power?
That goes for all parties btw.

Now are you sure Beaconsfield voted Leave?
That's an interesting question jura

Our MP is in favour of Brexit with a deal and has been castigated by some constituents for not representing the majority who voted remain here.
However, although our Local Authority area voted remain, his constituency actually comprises the whole of another LA area which voted overwhelmingly to leave and he only represents part of our LA area anyway.

It would be difficult, therefore, to calculate exactly whether his constituency voted to remain or leave as, in the LA areas which he represents, the votes were so conflicting.
That is how he has explained it anyway.

This is dangerous for the Tories because if someone like me is giving Corbyn a second look, they are in trouble. I prefer a middle ground but if I have to swing Right or Left it will be Left.

Beammeupscottie, that means anyone who votes for the Conservative party at the next election is voting for a party that is moving closer to Tommy Robinson and his views.

The media have called it the "Ukipization" of the Tory party. In that Tommy Robinson has stated that his ambition is to become an accepted member of the Conservative party.