What do we think of Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party?

I think if the Brexit Party does well it sends a strong message to Parliament that Leavers are t happy with the status quo. Time to move Brexit along and not by a stupid fudged WA. I’d rather stay in than accept a rotten deal.

I don't know how the emoticon got in there!

I raised more or less that same point early in the thread, Whitewave:

[...] I hope enough people will have the sense to see that voting for that party's candidates is not going to provide what we are supposed to be voting for: people to represent us in the EU.


Presumably their only aim in getting elected as MEPs would be to cause maximum chaos in the EU.

The only post I've seen since that maybe answers this was from quizqueen:

"[....] if UKIP and the Brexit Party scoop up a lot of the European elections votes, then I'll be happy. Yes, I'd like to see them cause maximum trouble in the EU because I'd love to see it collapse as soon as possible and all the 28 countries can be free and no longer just member states of a corrupt political union!"

I have been puzzling the last few days over a question I am having difficulty resolving.

So if we have the EU elections and amongst all the seats the Brexit party gain the most. Say 30%. (Totally arbitrary figure) but you get my drift?
Now what? This is where I am stuck.

They don’t appear to have a manifesto, they have been voted to sit in an institution in which they don’t believe.
The voters have voted for what appears at the moment to be a hollow shell with no policies, they have voted in blind faith. But what can the BP do? Nothing as far as I can see.

No one ever votes for that surely?

GracesGranMK3
I assume you may have voted remain. If this is the case how did you come to this decision?
Was it the nightly party political broadcasts, the brochure through the door, the articles in the papers that captured your vote or other?

The ballot box is the best way to make feelings really known Kadinsky - better than any on line petition or organised march. Nigel Farage knows this well and the massive support he is garnering supports this view. Urmstongran

But if it can't be done without putting one part of the UK in danger and it does not give us any of the promises for a better life that we were promised and if everyone knew too little when we started on this adventure but that was covered by lies, the breaching of spending rules and illegal microtargeting - why, oh why, would we go through with it?

Urmstongran

I think you missed something. I had replied to Lily (Wed 17-Apr-19 12:50:21) telling her about how my father told me about how the Germans felt about following what they believed "Everyone" agreed with.

Why be so defensive?

The ballot box is the best way to make feelings really known Kadinsky - better than any on line petition or organised march. Nigel Farage knows this well and the massive support he is garnering supports this view

Very true.

There has been NF in every school playground since the year dot, you know the type stir it up sit back & watch the ensuing chaos. Irresponsible, self serving & devious.

What a ridiculous comparison. The situation in post First WW Germany was completely different to any situation in present day Europe, and bears no comparison whatsoever, as N.F doesn't to Hitler!

Farage = Hitler ?

I get it.
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Not.

In 1920, Hitler began to lecture in Munich beer halls, particularly the Hofbräuhaus, Sterneckerbräu and Bürgerbräukeller. Only Hitler was able to bring in the crowds for the party speeches and meetings.In the following days, Hitler spoke to several packed houses and defended himself, to thunderous applause. The Wall Street Crash of 1929 heralded worldwide economic disaster.
Sir Horace Rumbold, British Ambassador in Berlin, began to revise their opinions. On 22 February 1933, he wrote, "Hitler may be no statesman but he is an uncommonly clever and audacious demagogue and fully alive to every popular instinct.

“The “half colonels, the half crazed and the half cut” - great description !”

It was funny wasn’t it crystaltipps and shows that even as a Leaver I’m happy to quote his article - I could have omitted it (mean of me).

Day6 NF was asked about the future (if any) of the Brexit Party and he said ‘one step at a time - deal with this aspect first and then we will take it from there’. Good enough Nige!

Hopefully!! The majority of politicians in both Houses have behaved disgracefully! Why on earth sign article 50 into law, never mind go to the electorate on the back of delivering brexit, when your actual intention is to destroy it?! Both major parties are guilty of this appalling deception,and need a thorough thrashing, so, come on Nigel onwards and upwards and maybe politicians will in the future think twice before promising something that cannot be delivered, and then compounding the offence by pretend to go along with it while actually doing the exact opposite! Charlatans each and every one!

The “half colonels, the half crazed and the half cut” - great description !

kadinksky a lot of the young are joining the climate change protest - why are you so certain they aren’t- actually the climate change protest is non political and not about Brexit, most of the protesters think climate change is actually more important.

Yes, good point varian

Just how many, if any, Brexit Party candidates will stand in the up coming local elections? I cannot imagine that he has rallied candidates at local level. I thought it was the EU elections only that the Brexit Party intended to contest?

Given, as pointed out earlier, it is still a one issue party, (EU exit) I am not sure they'll get a foothold locally.

I could be wrong.

It will be interesting to see how many votes the Brexit party and Ukip get in the Council elections, how many councillors are elected and whether they could even get control of a Council.

Oh dear. Mrs May might hope that the Easter break will cool the tempers of those fed up with her leadership, but that effect won't last long as the Brexit process is likely to provide further sources of aggravation.

Her former legislation chief at Downing Street, Nikki da Costa, has warned that Britain will almost certainly take part in the EU elections because the timetable to pass Mrs May's deal and the relevant legislation is “extraordinarily tight”.

This does not bode well for her hopes of avoiding European elections – an event that new polls suggest could well see Nigel Farage's Brexit Party romp home as the winners.

They may well do to stop the political avalanche that is the Brexit Party.

They know damned well they have betrayed the public and broken their promises regarding honouring the Leave majority vote.

People of every political persuasion have watched open mouthed as Parliament has turned into a long running bun-fight. They have watched as Remainer MPs have done all in their power to stop Brexit happening. May sadly, didn't live up to "No deal is better than a bad deal" and she and Corbyn might yet cobble together a very bad deal which is acceptable to remainers and Brussels and keeps us tied to the EU.

The people are aghast at the workings of the Commons and the Lords, and rightly so. It has been a complete farce, a shambles but what does strike almost everybody is that Parliament has done all it can to prevent Brexit happening.

Thank goodness for the Brexit Party. It might have no impact long term, but as a protest vehicle it's a winner!

I hope Farage wipes the floor with the lot of them!

The ballot box is the best way to make feelings really known Kadinsky - better than any on line petition or organised march. Nigel Farage knows this well and the massive support he is garnering supports this view.

I think that Mrs May and JC will cobble something together yet to thwart voting on 23 May.

Well the Lib Dem’s campaigned vociferously in the last GE as the only party promising a 2nd referendum..... and they only polled a measly 7% of the votes!

That said I predict they will do better next time as Labour and Conservative have completely lost the plot over Brexit.

The Liberal Democrats have now completed candidate selection for the EU elections, but before they happen will be campaigning for local Council elections in many parts of the country on May 2nd.

& if young remainers feel Brexit ‘has stolen their future’ they’d be doing what the climate change protesters are doing right now.
But they’re not, because they don’t care enough.

Hi petra good to have you posting too - earlier today I felt like the Lone Ranger on here!

This just now from a SKY news reporter about Nigel Farage’s pitch in Birmingham (and the reporter voted Remain):

“ to hear him speak to thousands, in my home city of Birmingham, without so much as half an ale in sight.

Only the second event of his new Brexit Party in the second city.

He was electric

He is a folk hero to his adherents and many who despise him don't understand his power.

But it wasn't just the usual crowd. I've been to plenty of UKIP conferences in my time; I know the vibe there - the half-colonels, the half-crazed and the half-cut.

But this was a bit different, and the people were different: couples, families, younger voters too.”