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Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

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crystaltipps Wed 17-Apr-19 08:28:34

There has been so far 3 days of climate change protests in Central London and other locations. They’ve disrupted traffic and inconvenienced a few, but have been in the main peaceful and has had a festival atmosphere. It looks like these protests will continue. Personally I feel climate change is a really important issue and should be the one that our esteemed politicians should be acting on and discussing but they aren’t. I’m in no way part of this group but, with some reservations, applaud their efforts and hope it does bring the issue to the fore. It does highlight how far our police resources are stretched that they can’t be stopped though. If you don’t live or work in the capital you probably don’t care about the protest , but hopefully you do care about the issues, and these protests it may be coming to a town near you. What do others think?

crystaltipps Sat 20-Apr-19 15:44:26

It is untrue that “thousands have lost their jobs”, or “thousands unable to get to work” , I was late for an appointment a couple of weeks ago when cab drivers were holding a protest and holding up traffic - they do this regularly - no idea what that was about - I don’t hear hysterical criticisms of selfish cab drivers and their second homes in Spain inconveniencing thousands.

Jabberwok Sat 20-Apr-19 15:22:06

I don't think they should have to endure it at all janipat! Rally in Hyde Park plus a march on a Sunday maybe, but other than that it's just not fair on people going about their daily business who are caught up in something that they can't influence. Politicians of course aren't affected as they are on a recess!! Their ridiculous demands are completely impossible particularly in a country that is well aware of climate change and making concertive efforts to do what it can bearing in mind all the considerations that we ALL including the demonstrators, now take for granted and that cannot be altered overnight!

Namsnanny Sat 20-Apr-19 15:19:03

Mycatsa hacker 19.36...[thumbs up]

janipat Sat 20-Apr-19 14:41:23

Is there any evidence that this protest has achieved anything towards it stated goal? There is evidence that the pollution levels have risen in those areas where the protestors have deliberately caused traffic congestion. I notice nobody is prepared to answer my question as to how long is fair for Londoners to endure this.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 14:08:35

The ones being 'put off' are most likely the ones who don't care anyway. And are determined no to think it out for themselves.

lemongrove Sat 20-Apr-19 13:29:45

Many will be put off by the tactics Gonegirl no matter what anyone thinks.
Also by a lot of the pompous drivel spouted by those camping out in London, especially celebs getting themselves some extra publicity.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 13:13:45

People on the thread are suggesting that many will be put off by the tactics being used. I am saying that would be narrow minded and pathetic.

lemongrove Sat 20-Apr-19 13:11:27

Who saying they don’t support the cause of being aware of the need globally for action for climate change.....nobody on this thread!
Most people are very aware, as are Western Governments.
What they are saying, is that a group should not be allowed to disrupt life for thousands for a whole week...or more.It has turned into a jolly for the group, united in self righteous demands.
They ‘will stay until their demands are met!’So they say.Don’t any of them have jobs? They should be moved on.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 13:10:40

Don't drink wine.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 13:10:05

There is nothing hysterical in that. It is the life of our grandchildren's and their children's planet that is threatened.

I am not hysterical. Just a bit angry. Sweetie pie.

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Apr-19 13:08:58

Now I have a lasagna to make petal so I have to pop off.

You lie down and have a cold glass of wine. Do you good. wink

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Apr-19 13:07:24

does the life of our grandchildren’s planet matter nothing to you

Er hysterical now yourself love.

Who on earth has said they don’t think climate change is a huge issue???

It’s the tactics that lots of us are questioning. Dear of dear. Can’t you actually understand that?

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 13:06:59

The information you are coming out with is making you sound a little bit of a drama queen. Darling.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 13:04:40

Why shouldn't a bit of central London be given over to the people for a while anyway? Been about motorists too long.

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Apr-19 13:03:46

You live in your own nice safe middle class echo chambers.

Listen to the callers on LBC there were 3 on Friday alone almost in tears at not getting to work so not being paid.

Of course you don’t care about those people do you? Or the estates where knife crime is rife and theft and vandalism a fact of everyday life. Of course crime has increased in these areas. The chief constable has already said they are top stretched with this nonsense protest.

But hey who cares!

Gonegirl

That’s twice you have called me hysterical it really is making you sound very silly dear.

The only hysterical ones on this thread are the ones who simply won’t tolerate or accept different opinions on these selfish counterproductive tactics.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 13:03:27

Quoting mycat. "They are ridiculous so unfortunately they make the issue look ridiculous and frivolous"

Surely you can decide for yourself whether their case is ridiculous or not withou being swayed by the fact that some people are dancing, and you don't like it.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 12:59:32

It is disgraceful to say anyone will not support this cause because of a few days inconvenience. Does the life of our grandchildren's planet matter nothing to you? Are you really that narrow minded?

Bellanonna Sat 20-Apr-19 12:57:16

I walked through Oxford Circus last week twice and it was all very peaceable. Portaloos in situ and an arrow pointing to the nearest public loos.

Gonegirl Sat 20-Apr-19 12:57:05

Exactly Crystaltipps. Makes me angry all this about people losing jobs and the zero hours contracts. I asked where this information came from. Guess what - no replies.

mycatisahacker you appear to be getting slightly hysterical over nothing.

This is the wealthiest part of this country.

crystaltipps Sat 20-Apr-19 12:50:06

I dispute the fact that it’s the poorest Londoners are suffering job losses and violence- what violence? The police haven’t had to bring in the riot squad have they? It’s been civil disobedience yes, but not rioting. How many people have lost jobs? Evidence? It’s not that chaotic - honestly, in fact it’s great to have some traffic free space in central London. I had to get from one side of London to the other and I could go on the tube or walk - or take a bus which didn’t go through the areas where there were protests. Not difficult. They’ve achieved something - people are talking about the issues much more. Yes I have walked through the areas where there were protests and felt perfectly safe.

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Apr-19 12:21:29

Meanwhile the poorest Londoners are suffering dreadfully through job losses and violence escalating as the police have to watch this lot.

janipat Sat 20-Apr-19 12:16:54

All those totally in agreement with this protest and the form it's taking, can you say how long you think Londoners should have to endure the chaos? I've read comment from some of the leaders saying it will go on until they get what they want, so weeks, months maybe years?

Sara65 Sat 20-Apr-19 12:01:26

Terrybull
I completely agree!

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Apr-19 11:59:49

Terrybull

Spot on post agree with you totally.

I think this demo has and is actually doing massive damage to get support to tackle this issue.

They are ridiculous so unfortunately they make the issue look ridiculous and frivolous.

Very bad judgment in my opinion

Alexa Sat 20-Apr-19 11:40:24

TerriBull

"All this just reinforces the "them and us". Just too presumptuous for words. "

It's more than a presumption it's true that there are two main opinions and the nay sayers should be know the imminent danger.