Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

That's really good. It's lovely how they do care.

DGD is in charge of the school recycling.

Calli yeah, his younger brother would love to be up there with him, but he is being kept firmly at granny's house!

Thanks ja. I think he has gone into Scout Camp mode up there now. He'll probably be doing everyone a fry-up in the morning.

Yes exactly the message is of course right but the method lasting this long is not.

I think targeting Heathrow would be extremely counter productive.

Your GS looks lovely Gonegirl.
All power to him.

Gonegirl DGD (a few years younger than your DGS and still at primary school) is very 'on-message' regarding this.

All I have to say now is -
I agree with their message
but not necessarily with their methods.

I don't think they should disrupt Heathrow.

GS is at Marble Arch, the police approved place. And he's found his niche with the welfare team. Right up his street.

He does look a lovely lad Gonegirl’ to be fair. And of course rather he there than not giving a toss about the planet.

I just feel this disruption has been so bad and now costing jobs and livelihoods it’s gone too far.

If flights are disrupted then people will start to ignore the message in anger at the messengers.

Flash demos are better! Short and sweet.

You have to take people with you not alienate them.

Well said Gramaretto.

I haven't read all the posts but just wanted to say that if you believe strongly in something even if you don't think you can make a difference, it is worth making your voice heard. Lots of drops in the ocean. Lots of voices in the choir can effect change.
I used to demonstrate when I was younger and now our DC and DGC get involved and I am glad.
It can be personally empowering too. Far better than sitting at home wringing your hands in hopeless despair.

Well, I'm proud of him.

GabriellaG54

Er thanks! I love posters who correct spellings. It really tells me so much about them.

My brain is starting to hurt just thinking about this problem. It’s multi layered and very complicated.
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Urmstongran that is a fair point, some countries/communities rely on our consumerism whether it be goods or holidays.

Perhaps the starting point should be with them, trying to make them “greener” and more eco aware. Look towards sustainability in goods and tourism.

You’re right of course varian
But this whole concept is mind boggling.

For instance, imagine if everyone signed a pledge not to buy any new stuff in the next 12 months. We could do it if we tried.

But how would that impact on the people whose livelihoods depend on us buying such stuff? I’d feel guilty in a different way then!

Varian so true.

What little we can all do does count- whether it is adjusting our diet, insulating our homes, travelling less, walking and cycling more or campaigning. None of use on our own can do much but together we can make a difference,

No, not smug crystaltipps
Realistic.

Our eldest daughter at 41y sounds just the same as Gonegirl’s grandson who is 17y. She has been banging on about these issues (sensitively) for over 20y. She (like he) practices what she believes in. Has it made any difference? Probably not in the big sea. But she feels she has tried. And to her, at least, that counts.

GabriellaG54, I was referring to the damage caused to regions in third world countries by our “throwaway mentality” to fashion. A whole lake has disappeared. Sweatshops are used by manufacturing in all price brands.

By the way I have a summer maxi dress worn on every holiday for the last 22 years.

Affected debacle definitely.
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GrannyGravy13
I have items bought in Primark 6 years ago which get worn often, in fact, I have jeans and a top plus cardigan and backpack with me at the moment on a day out in Brighton.
I have yet to have to mend or throw out anything at all that I have bought in Primark. It is all wearable, usable and immaculate...believe me. It's obvious that you don't shop there because you have no idea how long their goods last.
Of course, if you want to spend £135 on a fashionable dress only to find that it's made in Sri Lanka in the same factory as Primark wares, or how about a pink suede leather bomber jacket costing £120 in M&S made in Vietnam, then I guarantee that they won't last any longer and you'll get sick if the sight of them when they're no longer in fashion.
The Duchess of Cambridge has worn H&M and Zara clothing and that's stuff I buy too.
You're far too snobby to be a savvy shopper.
Who wants to keep wearing the same clothes for 15, 20, 30, 40 years?
You can sell stuff you no longer want on eBay or give to a women's refuge as I do.

I think the points made about mending things is really interesting and true. I well remember my dad stripping down the car engine, mending of the rented TV and radio etc. Even things like darning tights. We just don’t do these things anymore. Or can’t as said above due to lack of spare parts.

It could have been done differently. I had to walk from Charing Cross to Bond Street (then back) yesterday to meet a lovely Gransnetter for coffee. It was a bit of a struggle but it was worth it. But how about people needing to do that to get to work? I have sympathy with the cause but I’m sure a different approach could have been arranged. And as for disrupting Easter traffic at Heathrow? That’s despicable.

I was born in 1943,and I can remember quite clearly sweet rationing, taking my rationbook + 3d or 6d to the local Tobacconist to buy whatever . My childhood was much like yours Alexa with my mother doing all the domestic things, even preserving eggs in a bucket of waterglass! (we kept chickens) clothes were homemade, toys mostly second hand. Things had improved by the 1960's but again, things had to be looked after, and were mended frequently!! When I married in 1964 we were given a pop up toaster!! that toaster was mended again and again and yet again! it lasted years! Now of course you can't repair even a blown element so it has to be a new one!