Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

If Heathrow is effected following the bloody drone debarcle we will defiantly become even more of a joke to the world than we are already.

My belief is the police fed up with the cuts to their numbers are enjoying this. I really do.

Yes, but Urmstongran there are instances that show the other side.
A close relative was a mounted police officer during the miners strike and got clobbered when a chunk of concrete was heaved at him causing him to fall, then he was in kicked in the head rendering him unconscious. He never woke up and died 8 days later leaving a wife and 4 young daughters.
He was in his 30s.
I also have a brother who was there.
IMV, times change and the PC brigade have made ridiculous rules which have extracted any teeth that police previously had.
They now think it's better to mingle, hence gangnam style dancing at carnivals and bumper car shenanigans at fairgrounds. The 'We're one of you' style of policing.
I certainly don't agree with it.

I don’t think criticising mob rule makes you smug.

I think the definition of smug is not giving a dam about other people’s jobs and livelihoods because you are all right jack.

These posh protesters will return to leafy constituencies and have not one care for the misery they have created for Londoners.

It’s reported that they intend to target Heathrow Airport tomorrow...........not sure they will get support from people who have saved up for their holidays only to find their flights cancelled!!!!

I think many of us know that.
So who is doing all the polluting in my AONB? throwing out fast food junk, plastic bottles along the road? It is not anyone I know. All fast food outlets are some miles away, so presumably they eat as they drive along then sling the rubbish and must encourage their children to do the same as there are Fruit Shoot bottles amongst the debris.
A 78 year old friend takes his life in his hands litter picking along a stretch of it (no pavements and it's a winding road) only to walk back again and find more has been dropped in the meantime.

No one is saying it doesn’t matter!!

Of course it does but disruption on this scale costs small businesses and costs jobs! Real people are loosing their jobs. They can’t earn. Can’t pay their bills. Can’t access hospital appointments.

It’s targeting the innocent.

rubbishing the message the protesters are trying to get across by criticising them for not being perfect, or for being the wrong colour or class, is to my mind, being part of the apathy that has led us to this position. Who could protest according to some on here? Only those who grow their own veg, walk everywhere, make all their own clothes, and are obviously not white or middle class or part of the 21st century would be allowed to comment. That is unrealistic but never mind any criticism will do if it makes you feel smug.

Callistermon

Agree totally

But it's not unfair to the planet, which matters a lot to our children, grandchildren, and their children.

Surely that was not artificial turf that they used to create a 'hayfield' on one of the London Bridges?
I do hope it was real turf.

I can't find any news reports of XR protests in China yet.
Does anyone have a link?

Oh well at 17 he’d aware then., sorry but one day of disruption ok fair enough but this now is just sheer cruelty inflicting on millions of other hard working and often poor people. It’s so wrong and so unfair of them now.

Hear hear callististemon

And GoneGirl perhaps you could explain to him how zero contract hours work and how his actions are hitting the poorest in society and will not make anyone any more aware of climate change than they were before but unfortunately have pissed off large swathes of London and the country in general.

He's 17.

Well he must be the only teenager on the planet then. Or maybe 13?

crystaltipps Thu 18-Apr-19 16:54:59

What a strange post.
Questioning the hypocrisy of some of the protestors does not mean that I am polluting the planet, discarding plastic in the local river or along the roadsides (although some people must be from the appearance of the AONB near me!) nor that I am not concerned about pollution, climate change.
Rather, I think that the protestors are aiming this at the wrong people. I would not expect them to fly off to China or America to protest (and goodness knows what would happen if they did but I don't think that this is the way forward and they are in danger of their message being lost on people who may become angry at their methods.

If they are targeting the UK Government perhaps they should have done this when Parliament was in session?

Yes, I'll be watching David Attenborough and listening, taking heed of his message, and try to overlook the fact that he has spent his life flying around the world in polluting aeroplanes in order to bring us those wonderful programmes.

mycat if they demonstrated in parks they would not get noticed.

GrannyGravy13 the protestors are not those people. My GS, who is there again today, wears ancient trainers, has no interest in the latest fashions, hates screens and posseses only a very old hand-me-down phone. You are talking about the ones who don't care enough.

I understand the concerns of grans who dislike the climate demos. Of course these are inconvenient to say the least!

This is a case of the lesser of evils. It is not going to be comfortable trying to reverse climate change and its dreadful catastrophes. And, yes, some people are going to skive out of all effort. Demos are God willing at least a step in the right direction. I will join one if and when I can. On my mobility scooter.

Washerwoman, I sort of said that electric scooters (not cars) are very slow. And that larger type mobility scooters probably are due to be recommended for personal transport by councils seeking to save their local areas from dangerous gas emissions and other road danger.

Electric scooters for all personal transport suit very well the new ideas for neighbourhood facilities such as convenience store, library, smaller primary school, charity shop, church, church hall, mixture of social classes, and various age groups and ethnicities.

Personal electric scooters are aids to socialising as cars never can be, and the slower pace charms because of the entirely different perspective on the neighbourhood and its people.

no this isn’t about climate change! They could face demonstrated in the parks etc. This is about mob rule intimidation and posing idiots who now feel they have some power.

Home is a good place to start........unfortunately it’s the youngsters who totally embrace the me me me consumerism! Latest phone, latest trainers, latest fashion and game consoles. Always with a coffee/drink/bottle of water in their hands????

Anyone who watched the Stacey Dooley documentary on the damage that producing “fast fashions” has caused to some countries would surely think twice before purchasing “throw away fashion” from primark etc.

And to those asking why they don't demonstrate outside foreign embassies such as China and Russia, I suppose it's because they have a right to expect their own government to respond to their concerns. Home is a good place to start.

Ok. Some people don't drive. But I'll bet there are a lot of people on this site who do hop in their cars for short journeys. (Please note: short).

The last time I was in central London and travelled on a bus, I couldn't even get a seat.

And I was using the ref white as John snow did!! Just a fact. Not a slur a fact.

crystaltipps

Why do you assume no one but you or these mob vandals cares about climate change?