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Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

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crystaltipps Wed 17-Apr-19 08:28:34

There has been so far 3 days of climate change protests in Central London and other locations. They’ve disrupted traffic and inconvenienced a few, but have been in the main peaceful and has had a festival atmosphere. It looks like these protests will continue. Personally I feel climate change is a really important issue and should be the one that our esteemed politicians should be acting on and discussing but they aren’t. I’m in no way part of this group but, with some reservations, applaud their efforts and hope it does bring the issue to the fore. It does highlight how far our police resources are stretched that they can’t be stopped though. If you don’t live or work in the capital you probably don’t care about the protest , but hopefully you do care about the issues, and these protests it may be coming to a town near you. What do others think?

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 10:36:04

I imagine future heating will be by electricity. Hopefully nuclear powered. Until nuclear fission is viable.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 10:35:18

gillybob perhaps read this?

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 10:31:48

I know what I said Gillybob. You're interpreting it wrong.

crystaltipps Thu 18-Apr-19 10:30:54

Cabbies have been blocking up London streets on their own protest for weeks. So don’t feel sorry for them, I was recently late for an appointment when Lambeth Bridge was closed by taxi driver protests.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 10:30:30

That as well Maggiemaybe.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 10:28:19

gillybob it's only for a few days. The demonstrations are about the future life of the planet.

Alexa Thu 18-Apr-19 10:27:22

Electric battery cars can be very slow rather like large mobility scooters.These would be adequate for commuters, and two young children could fit into a small trailer. If all internal suburban and inner city roads were limited to these small electric vehicles the areas there would be very few serious road traffic accidents. Emergency vehicles and delivery vehicles would have special permission and would be limited especially the latter as to speed.

Maggiemaybe Thu 18-Apr-19 10:19:00

I’ve only been in a London cab once, in an emergency, because the capital is so well served by other forms of public transport. I’d never choose to travel in a car when I could use my feet, or hop on a bus. Perhaps those who travelled in to disrupt the lives of commuters and visitors could have used the time instead to protest in their own backyards about the woeful lack of public transport in many other areas of the country,

gillybob Thu 18-Apr-19 09:52:16

And, on the subject of people getting to hospital appointments, London cabbies do know alternative routes

Oh yes travel 10 miles through side streets instead of 2 or 3 on the main roads. hardly environmentally friendly is it? Also many of us cannot afford to use taxis.

gillybob Thu 18-Apr-19 09:49:29

It is the government who can bring forward the phasing out of petrol cars on the market. And legislate against gas boilers being installed into new houses

What would you suggest we do to replace them? Electric vehicle Battery technology is still way off to make them a viable alternative at the moment.

What would you suggest we use to replace gas heating in our homes ?

gillybob Thu 18-Apr-19 09:41:50

You could say this country is most responsible. Because the Industrial Revolution started here. So perhaps it's right we should take the lead

This is what you said up thread Gonegirl . I happen to think we are already "taking the lead" . We clearly cannot turn back time.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 09:27:19

And, on the subject of people getting to hospital appointments, London cabbies do know alternative routes.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 09:24:52

It is the government who can bring forward the phasing out of petrol cars on the market. And legislate against gas boilers being installed into new houses.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 09:22:29

They are starting with their own country - a good place to start.

In any case, the MPs are on holiday. Even Theresa is in Wales. grin

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 09:21:00

gillybob - what?!!!!! confused Read what I said again?

Maggiemaybe Thu 18-Apr-19 09:20:12

How to reduce the human population you ask Maggiemaybe? Logan’s Run! Just goes to prove my point about the ignorance of some people.

Thanks for that, Anja. As I was so obviously being 100% serious, I deserved to be insulted.

Beckett Thu 18-Apr-19 09:11:23

If the protest is "aimed at those in power" Why are they not gathered around the House of Commons, preventing MPs from entering, or outside the embassy of those countries which are the main polluters and stopping people entering or leaving. Stopping a builder, shop worker, train driver, bus driver or whoever getting to work will change nothing and will only lose support for their movement.

gillybob Thu 18-Apr-19 09:09:45

Oh crikey do you really want us to go back to pre industrial revolution ?

gillybob Thu 18-Apr-19 09:09:00

I think they are preaching to the converted Gonegirl ! I really believe that most of us are fully aware and are trying very hard to minimise our impact on climate change.

I would like to take a cross section of these people and whilst attached to a lie detector ask them how eco friendly they really are themselves .

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 09:05:54

You could say this country is most responsible. Because the Industrial Revolution started here. So perhaps it's right we should take the lead.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 09:02:12

You have to remember, these demonstrations are not about today. 'Today' will have to go hang for just a little while.

This is about the future of the whole planet, and it's aimed at those in power.

lemongrove Thu 18-Apr-19 08:57:42

It’s a ridiculous waste of police time and stops people from getting to work.......and for what? To hear ‘ a message’ that we hear all the time and in a country that already does a lot to help stop climate change! Those protesters need to lobby and protest outside embassies and do some research into the worst countries.
I expect a lot of them enjoyed their ‘always a rebel’ moment.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Apr-19 08:49:28

gilly and terri

Thank you for proving my point.

TerriBull Thu 18-Apr-19 08:46:15

Yes gilly "The Messengers" need to make sure whilst they are delivering "The Message" if they want to be taken seriously, that they are not leaving conspicuous amounts of waste, don't travel unnecessarily, don't drive diesel cars (yeah thanks for that advice Gordon Brown) so detrimental to youngsters, especially those who live or are schooled near busy roads, not to mention mothers carrying unborn children, only drive electric cars, get rid of their wood burning stoves if they have those, whilst delivering the message, to admonish those such as festival goers and travellers who leave piles and piles of crap in their wake, why is it ever okay to think others will clear up your detritus, to give up on flying anywhere. I think we are all fed up with grandstanding celebrities and politicians and their "don't do as I do, do as I say message"

I'll leave it there.

gillybob Thu 18-Apr-19 08:23:39

I really don’t know what kind of message this is sending out to the rest of the UK and the wider world whitewave .

It’s fine to block streets and strew rubbish all over ?
It’s fine to stop people from getting to work.
It’s fine to stop people from getting to vital hospital appointments?
It’s fine to cause so much disruption that 100’s of extra police have had to be called in at huge financial cost.
It’s fine to preach about climate change but continue to wear deadly fleeces?
It’s fine to preach about the effects of eating meat and continue to wear leather boots and shoes.
It’s fine to travel hundreds of miles in a petrol or diesel vehicle in order to protest against the very same.

I would love to know what most of these people are actually living on?

As I have said up thread I happen to think most of us here in the U.K. try very hard at doing the right thing for the planet .