Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

Nothing wrong with my moral compass Missis.

Whose made disparaging remarks about her apart from she looked sulky???? She did.

I feel sorry for her to be honest.

Gonegirl

Yes I am worried about her as my commen sense and moral compass hasn’t been overruled,as yours has, by any sort of criticism of this protest.

She is clearly a very vulnerable child.

She wasn't being "paraded". There are many young women in our society that we might describe as being "paraded" but she is not one of them.

If we say that she is too young and does not have enough knowledge to be taken seriously on this issue, then surely - at least so far as knowledge is concerned - that might apply to many people who express views on climate change. How many people, on either side of the climate change debate, and whose views are given airtime, are qualified in and working as atmospheric scientists?

There are many people, including "experts", who deny that climate change is due to CO2 emissions. There appears to be many more who disagree but I don't know if that is because they are given more coverage. There is a view that there is another agenda behind the issue of climate change.

I don't feel qualified enough to come down strongly either way but I do feel that the environment is being dangerously degraded by human activity.

I think, if nothing else, this young girl has energised the campaign and has perhaps encouraged more young people to take an interest. She appears to be intelligent and is certainly very good at expressing herself in a foreign language. I think to make such disparaging remarks about her is really not very nice. It is older people who make all the decisions in the world and it seems that increased age does not necessarily equal increased wisdom. If it did, I don't think we'd be in the mess we're in now.

They should take rubbish home!!

As for finding a bin in Central London......good luck haven't most of them been removed due to the terrorism threat?

Yes rubbish is rubbish but when you are using rubbish to rubbish someone’s message than that is an issue, especially if the messengers weren’t responsible. I expect there will be a mound of rubbish on Sunday from the marathon, not just the 50,000 runners but the huge crowds it attracts. Will you be complaining about that as well ? Why people can’t take their rubbish home or find a bin I’ve no Idea.

We have thermos mugs which keep our water nice and cold when we go out anywhere.
Re-usable, refillable thousands of times.
Refilling plastic water bottles is not good - especially if they are left to get warm anywhere.

I haven't seen those pictures. I have only read reports of how tidy the protests were.

^But..... if they each had one plastic bottle, refilled it from standpipes, and then took them home to use another day.... then that's not single use plastic is it?

D'you geddit?^

GoneGirl It's no use your being sarcastic. The bottles were left scattered around as litter, therefore they were not being taken home to use another day, were they??

The pictures I looked at were of plastic bottles left lying around overflowing bins (not those ridiculous exaggerated photos doing the rounds... which don't even look believable).

But I think you are missing the bigger point though crystaltipps Whether the plastic bottles were left behind or not is almost irrelevant. They still have to be got rid of .

But..... if they each had one plastic bottle, refilled it from standpipes, and then took them home to use another day.... then that's not single use plastic is it?

D'you geddit?

Well if they are being accused of leaving thousands behind and they weren’t actually left by them then it’s relevant. But hey ho don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story.

It's council juice for me every time !

Nothing desperate about wondering what is different about plastic bottles used by climate change protesters or a plastic bottle used by anyone else ?

Personally I hate the things but millions of people (including CCP's) seem to like them.

Oh my God. Desperation kicks in...

Rubbish is rubbish is rubbish....

I've been thinking about this (could anyone smell burning?) and it's a silly, almost non-argument whether they did or did not leave plastic bottles lying around. Assuming they DID use plastic bottles and photographs seem to show that they did, then whether they cleared them up into a bin or not , they did still used them and they still have to be got rid of.

Err, they weren't in Hyde Park. They were nearby and went to help clear up.

Do you actually read any links on here Monica.

Gonegirl , how could ER tell what was rubbish produced by their members and that produced by others? Should there have been any rubbish?

There were plenty of onlookers, tourists etc. - who’s too say some of them didn’t leave any rubbish? But no, that doesn’t fit the negativity narrative.

GG my first thought when I heard about the rubbish left behind was that it was not necessarily true and would suit many people’s agendas to pretend it was. It wouldn’t exactly be the first time that happened would it?

mycat you are so transparent. You are practically wringing your hands in despair over the fate of this young person.

Yeah, right.

Extinction Rebellion actually helped clear up other groups' rubbish.

interesting

Honestly I felt uncomfortable watching her. Kids need a normal life and being lauded and dawned on by adults who should know better is a sorry spectacle.

The next thing is the press, fashion industry and media in general will be either using her to promote them or picking her apart.

What on Earth are her parents thinking of.

I think the difference between SB going out to Syria and becoming a jihadist bride at 15y and GT a climate change activist at 16y maryeliza is that one is not on the autism spectrum and one is. It makes a huge difference in perception.