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Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

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crystaltipps Wed 17-Apr-19 08:28:34

There has been so far 3 days of climate change protests in Central London and other locations. They’ve disrupted traffic and inconvenienced a few, but have been in the main peaceful and has had a festival atmosphere. It looks like these protests will continue. Personally I feel climate change is a really important issue and should be the one that our esteemed politicians should be acting on and discussing but they aren’t. I’m in no way part of this group but, with some reservations, applaud their efforts and hope it does bring the issue to the fore. It does highlight how far our police resources are stretched that they can’t be stopped though. If you don’t live or work in the capital you probably don’t care about the protest , but hopefully you do care about the issues, and these protests it may be coming to a town near you. What do others think?

Mycatisahacker Wed 24-Apr-19 11:28:40

out of date pathetic views

So you agree with a vulnerable child being paraded as the poster girl for climate change? A child who seemingly has Aspergers!

I think it’s almost akin to grooming actually.

Very distasteful and exploitative.

I think your eagerness to defend the actions of these protesters has clouded your judgment.

Eglantine21 Wed 24-Apr-19 11:26:15

Well you know I don’t think the protest will change anything GG.

I think it will become yesterday’s news and nothing will change.

Time will tell.

When it comes to doing something about it I think my ideas are more radical than most!

Gonegirl Wed 24-Apr-19 11:25:50

I meant to say what I said mycat.

crystaltipps Wed 24-Apr-19 11:24:34

She does go to school and has obviously had a good education if the standard of her English is anything to go by. Her parents are very supportive. Maybe you’d be ok with her watching the Kardashians all day like other 16 year olds.

Gonegirl Wed 24-Apr-19 11:24:24

When people on here say you "are worried abou her", I don't believe you. You are trying to justify your out-of-date pathetic views.

Monica you say you have not heard her in action. Shame on you. There are links on the threads.

maryeliza54 Wed 24-Apr-19 11:23:30

Mmmm - so this 16 year old is too young to understand and is being exploited by others in her life whereas recently a 15 year old schoolgirl was held by many on GN to be completely responsible for all her actions and knew exactly what she was doing? Mmmm mmmm

Mycatisahacker Wed 24-Apr-19 11:22:47

Gonegirl

I think you meant to say you disagree with me. I think you are wrong but you are fully entitled to your opinion as are everyone else on this thread.

I don’t think children should be taken advantage of whatever the cause. It’s disturbing and again I say she should be in school getting an education.

Gonegirl Wed 24-Apr-19 11:20:51

mycat you are simply wrong.

Mycatisahacker Wed 24-Apr-19 11:19:35

Bellsnonna

Well if that is indeed the case then her parents are massively letting her down instead of turning her into a public spectacle she should be in school.

In my view lording and fawning around any child is crazy behaviour. Seeing the adult MPs hanging on her every word was Frankly embarrassing.

She is obviously being taken advantage of and it should stop.

Gonegirl Wed 24-Apr-19 11:19:30

Eglantine she has got governments listening. Now Extinction Rebellion want to hold talks with ours to get them moving. So far progress has been very slow. (Unenthusiastic?)

Gonegirl Wed 24-Apr-19 11:17:10

I loved her cheeky sense of humour when she was addressing the MPs. "Is my English ok? Can you hear me. Because sometimes I wonder". I don't think she was referring to that speech alone. grin

Gonegirl Wed 24-Apr-19 11:14:20

You accidentally got the wrong word there Monica. You said "adulation*. Sure you meant admiration. smile

M0nica Wed 24-Apr-19 11:09:09

If she is autistic. I wonder, among all the adulation, who is looking after her mental health.

There is another thread discussing this, or at least there was yesterday.

Eglantine21 Wed 24-Apr-19 11:05:27

Please don’t jump on me Alexa because this is a genuine question.

When you say “She has done more to sort the extinction crisis than most other people” what exactly in practical terms has changed?

I get that she has played her part in raising awareness but is there anything that is substantially different because of that? Has any government or big commercial/industrial organisation committed to or even carried out any effective change?

Bellanonna Wed 24-Apr-19 10:56:41

mycatisahacker the “sulky looking kid” has Asperger so maybe that’s why she doesn’t smile a lot?

M0nica Wed 24-Apr-19 10:50:55

I do not agree

Alexa Wed 24-Apr-19 10:48:45

MOnica, she actually is an important person who merits adult guardians. She has done more to sort the extinction crisis than most other people.

The respect she is given is more than a personality cult ;it's recognition of her truth and hard work,

M0nica Wed 24-Apr-19 10:41:12

I have yet to see her in action, on tv or reality, but I too am very uneasy the way an ignorant young woman (what does she really know about the complexities of the problem, exactly what each country is or is not doing or have any comprehension of the technology) to really drive an informed and more realistic campaign, on what is without a shred of doubt a potential catatstrophe situation that needs to be treated with much much more urgency.

Reading and hearing about how she is surrounded by adulating adults and treated like a little goddess, really worries me. These campaigns driven by emotion rather than rationality are often counter productive and hinder achieving the goals they wish to achieve.

Mycatisahacker Wed 24-Apr-19 10:18:00

This won’t be popular but I find that sulky looking kid very annoying. I don’t particularly like teenagers who seem to think they are more informed and more important than they are.

She needs to go back to school.

Eloethan Wed 24-Apr-19 00:43:46

You can't lecture other countries if you're not prepared to make some hard choices yourself. And if every country waits for other countries to behave responsibly then we are heading for ecological disaster.

In the Science Museum in London there is a model of the earth which shows, with the aid of areas lighting up, where most of the energy is being used in the world. From my recollection, Europe, North and South America, Australia and the UAE are examples of high users of resources whereas, for instance, Africa uses a much smaller amount of the world's resources. No doubt India and China are moving up the table but they are recent arrivals and it was the developed nations, and Britain in particular with the advent of industrialisation, that set the standard.

Tweedle24 Tue 23-Apr-19 21:08:57

Crystaltipps I do not disagree about the futility of sending hordes of people flying around the world to demonstrate elsewhere. I was really trying to point out that, much as our government could probably do more, it is at least trying. The aim is to save the world but, that will not happen while other countries are doing nothing to help. Effort should be directed towards the leaders of countries such as China and India to reduce their contribution to global warming. Even more effort should be directed towards a certain country whose president does not believe in global warming and has said he will do nothing to reduce his country’s pollution.
Incidentally, several people in the protest group admitted that they had flown across the Atlantic to jon in the protests.

M0nica Tue 23-Apr-19 20:25:54

crystaltipps it is not the economy, it is the technology and the time span.

If they had just been demnstrating to get more being done more quickly, to rouse public debate to show that the country, as a whole is way in front of the politicians and considers Global warming even more important than Brexit(!) they could have many many more supporters including me. But when they start making impossible demands a lot of people I know, of all ages, just walked away, including those working to provide the technplogy needed and who could best inform such a movement of what can and cannot be done so that they would know what could be done immediately and wha would take longer.

varian Tue 23-Apr-19 18:48:49

There surely must be huge opportunities for an economy involving less production of unecessary throw-away products and more production of "green technology" - renewable energy and energy saving products. In this country we could start by a real push to upgrading the existing housing stock. The Building Regulations have been continuously upgraded but apply only to new-build and extensions.

crystaltipps Tue 23-Apr-19 18:44:45

Capitalism and it’s need for us to chuck stuff away and buy new constantly and emphasis on constant growth is what is meant here - and I agree with that, our economy is based on people continuing to buy more and more stuff they don’t need - that has to change.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Apr-19 17:48:48

Daze Aghaji is a member of XR and was speaking on behalf of them.