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The priest at Lyras funeral

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Mycatisahacker Wed 24-Apr-19 17:43:03

Got a standing ovation. Very deserved. Good on him

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 18:59:06

There was no hypocrisy in the sermon. Gayness wasn't discussed. Of course.

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 18:57:48

I did not say I share their views maryeliza , I don’t know their views anymore than some in NI know the views of Plaid Cymru.

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 18:57:26

So pleased don't be quite so aggressive about nothing at all. smile

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 18:55:59

"What the hell notanan? Here's "what the hell".

Of course it would be said at at anyone's funeral how much they loved their wife/husband/partner, and how important they were to the deceased. And how much the partner left behind will miss him/her. But I really don't think sexuality as such would be discussed. That is usually acknowledged to be a private matter between two people.

hmm

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 18:52:11

Well you share their views ab so no surprise you like them

trisher Sat 27-Apr-19 18:49:30

annepl if soomeone is asked to resign and refuses, if a vote of no-confidence in them then passes who is responsible for the resulting chaos? The only reason Arlene Foster was able to remain in office was that she used legilaion designed to prevent politicians becoming involved in paramilitary activities. In other words she is operating undemocratically.
The Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP), Ulster Unionist Party (UUP), Alliance Party, People Before Profit (PBP), Traditional Unionist Voice (TUV), and the Green Party signed a ministerial exclusion motion under Section 30 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998, which would formally remove Foster from office.[22] Although the opposition had a majority in the subsequent motion of no confidence, the motion did not pass because of Stormont's cross-community procedures.[23] This section was intended for removing politicians from office if they became involved in paramilitary activities.

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 18:48:22

The DUP some see over here .

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 18:46:45

The DUP we see over here behave and look like henchmen. They are bigoted misogynistic homophobic hardliners who sold themselves to May and have helped wreak havoc on the UK and I’ll say what I wish about them because they don’t just impact on NI and a RoI but on E, W and S. Talk about democracy? Pathetic

annep1 Sat 27-Apr-19 18:38:27

Yes of course, the Irish Language Act. We really should have one. Wales and Scotland do. (Although my friend and I tried a U3A class and found it the most difficult language we had ever attempted to learn!)
But we need to get on with day to day stuff whilst all these things are negotiated. Things like long waiting times for hospital appointments and ops and shortage of GPs education....
Nothing is important enough to shut down government. That is not caring for those who voted for you.

Oh and here we go again. People only wanting to see one side and being rude talking about henchmen.

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 18:27:01

Still don't think her sexuality need be discussed on a thread about her funeral.

What the hell?
At EVERY funeral I have been to there have been talk of who the deceased loved, and chose to have in their life.

If it is not relevant at your funeral when is it!

Of COURSE the hypocracy of the preeching will have been acutely felt by those who relate to being gay in that kind of environment.

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 18:11:44

Given how badly she behaved over that and the way she stopped the same sex marriage legislation, imo SF are right not to go back without some cast iron promises. Who would trust her or any of her henchmen. In some ways I could laugh - the DUP wanting to be fully part of the UK except of course when it comes to gay people and women. Bloody hypocrites.

trisher Sat 27-Apr-19 17:43:11

It was and I think continues to be a dispute about the Green energy scheme and Arlene Foster's involvement in it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_Heat_Incentive_scandal
Sinn fein wanted her to resign which she has consistently refused to do although other DUP members have blamed her and it seems she was at best incompetent and at worse guilty of fraud,

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 16:08:30

I thought there was firstly the issue about the Irish Language. Secondly I thought the issue about same sex marriage was actually more than just disagreement about that but about how the DUP prevented it being enacted so a constitutional matter in fact. But there’s also the issue of the original issue that led to MM resigning and AF refusing to stand down while the investigation into that issue was carried out.

annep1 Sat 27-Apr-19 16:03:10

So, you tell me, MaryEliza. Why will SF not go back to work??

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 15:36:46

So you think the two years was because of that? I’d laugh if it wasn’t so serious

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 15:33:36

Certaintly shouldn’t , a government needs to prioritise though, two years without a government because of disagreements over same sex marriage seems to show same sex marriage is of more importance than health and education.

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 15:11:27

<sigh> it’s not a competition

EllanVannin Sat 27-Apr-19 15:10:39

How very archaic and dangerous religion is !!

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 15:04:08

Is same sex marriage more important than health

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 14:48:03

What issues are the DUP willing to discuss anne? Surely not same sex marriage after what AF has been saying yet again these last few days?

annep1 Sat 27-Apr-19 14:43:59

I think the DUP and the priest have the same views on marriage and abortion, which is interesting.
DUP are willing to go back to Stormont immediately and discuss these issues whilst dealing with essentials like health and education. SF won't. How anyone ever solves this is beyond me. Two years wasted.
And yes I also believe religion should not influence political decisions. But we have the parties that the electorate choose. And no one wants direct rule. (I personally have no objections)

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 12:13:22

Why are personal religious beliefs different to personal beliefs

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 10:27:16

Not biting ab. Other posters I’m sure can see the irony in the DUP’s position. Also some of us can see there is an issue between personal religious beliefs and what a political party should foist on a country. I appreciate not everyone can handle the undoubted nuance in this statement

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 10:23:17

But maryeliza you criticised the RC priest and spoke of hypocrisy and criticise Arlene Foster for not being a hypocrite

maryeliza54 Sat 27-Apr-19 10:15:47

You never disappoint ab never.