The priest at Lyras funeral

That priest was right !

I can't stand any of those Irish leaders at all. None of them have the compassion that they ought to have in such a troubled country. They should try listening to their people good and bad !!

Thought you would support the DUP Maryeliza, founded by Ian Paisley who was so anti Roman Catholic.

I listened to Arlene Foster this morning on R4. One of the issues that is holding up getting the NI Assembly up and running again is the DUPs utter antagonism to gay marriage. She just couldn’t see the irony in this.

I agree Varian. Both very brave ladies.

We should never forget Lyra Mckee, neither should we ever forget Jo Cox MP.

These were both good brave women and stood for the values we should all defend against the forces of evil.

They are not, as one poster said on another thread, in any way 'freedom fighters'. It is just a convenient 'cause' to use to make their criminal behaviour somehow sound legitimate.
They are nasty murderous thugs and criminals and would probably behave the same anyway.

I hope we never forget Lyra McKee.

I think they should stop calling these people "The New IRA". They are just young thugs. Criminals. Don't give them a status.

Let's hope that more good folk in Northern Ireland turn their backs on tribal sectarianism and support the Alliance Party.

There have been so many murders that its difficult to recall all of them. Certain ones will stick in the minds of individual people for different reasons. The two soldiers surrounded by a crowd at a funeral still gets me.
I hope Trisher is wrong. It's disturbing to think that there could be a different attitude to" loyalist" activities. I can't think of any examples. Certainly I and my friends feel disgusted by all criminal activities.
I have just watched the news which showed teenagers with a crate full of petrol bombs in L/derry and a person whom they assume is the gunman. Very sinister looking.

I don’t know, who knows the future

And in 18 years time will the same be being said about Lyra Mckee?

Apart from fsmily and friends who can recall if there was a report of a murder in 2001

Mycatisahacker I don't know about cover ups. I would like to think not, but I still wonder about the total condemnation of IRA violence and the apparent acceptance of Loyalist groups actions (even the name is significant) and the lack of publicity about it. Whatever is happening I don't think the situation is going to get any better.

Any and all churches are human institutions ; they get some things wrong, and they have bad people in them.

The priest at Lyra's funeral was doing what churches do best; the priest spoke from the point of view of Jesus' main message of universal love.

Trisher thank you for posting that article. Very informative and so sad.

trisher

Do you think these attacks are covered up in a sense? The case of that young man sounds terrible

I haven’t heard rants against Rev Richard Cole, Anglican priest And his partner Rev David Coles nee Oldham

Could it be because the Anglican Church accepts civil partnerships ? Surely not.

I have never heard homophobic rants in Church

They may be reported but such actions are not supported by the authorities the FA has a policy of actively supporting LGBT players and football clubs.
The church has never supported LGBT people but has often castigated and condemned them.

The churches views on homosexuality certaintly cause division and intolerance in any area of my life .

Let’s critcised football matches where homophobic rants are well reported .

Yes, I think you have made a good point too maryeliza.

The fact that the priest did not refer to her sexuality irrelevant.

The sentiments the priest expressed are likely to be considered by most people as being wholly appropriate. However, for a priest to preach about the need for politicians to put aside their political and religious differences for the sake of unity, stability and, impliedly, common humanity, does rather overlook the church's role in creating and reinforcing division and intolerance in many areas of people's lives.

No words for peace are irrelevant

Sad as this young woman's death was. It is only the latest in a long line of killings which have happened.
THE killing of Ciaran Cummings on 4 July 2001 was described by the PSNI as "absolutely brutal." The 19-year-old welder was waiting for his usual morning lift at the Greystone roundabout in Antrim when a black motorcycle with a gold stripe stopped, and two gunmen wearing white and black crash helmets dismounted. He was initially shot in the back then, as he lay on the ground, one of the gunmen shot him again.
Ciaran Cummings had no involvement in politics or with paramilitaries. He was, in the parlance of the Troubles, an innocent victim, and in a way that was the point. He was a Catholic and an easy target for loyalist paramilitaries who wished to send out a very particular warning at the time on the rerouting of loyal order parades. If his death is now forgotten by many that will fulfil the prediction made by the Bishop of Down and Connor, Dr Patrick Walsh, at his funeral. The clergyman said Ciaran would always be remembered by his family, but noted that for the wider public: "For a few days his name has been well known and on the lips of so many people, but after this weekend his name will soon be forgotten and Ciaran will be simply another statistic, yet another bare statistic, in the long list of victims of violence."
You can read the statistics and the full article here
www.thedetail.tv/articles/the-cruel-peace-killings-in-northern-ireland-since-the-good-friday-agreement
Sadly I think Lyras death may soon join Ciaran's and become another statistic. So the priest's words may be just as irrelevant.

I don't think that is entirely true Anniebach. . But that is a whole different topic.
It is sad that killings, and sectarian violence continues One young man died (last year I think) after being left in a vegetative state for 8 years after a sectarian beating by loyalists. That too was heartbreaking..