The Brexit Party

Maybe science will find a cure for Ann Widdecombe.

Maybe “science” will “cure” homosexuality is one?

I think we have seen peak BP. Thanks to all sensible people voting tactically.

No one should expect to win an election on a “blind” vote.

No one should vote for someone who will be voting in parliament on all sorts of issues about which there is no declared manifesto. That way lies madness.

I see the BP didn’t win the by election, came 2nd hoovering up the Tory votes. The Labour candidate said she won by campaigning on local issues, whilst the BP was “Brexit, Brexit and more Brexit”. They need to start to get some policies rather than rely on Nigel making them up as he goes along.

It states in the article in Nonnie's link that Aaron Banks said 'the money was supposed to help Nigel get out of politics'. So what is going on? Anyone read more on that?

Maybe late in the day (I haven't read all this thread) but I saw a noticeboard in our Civic Centre yesterday with the results of the EU MP elections. This is a traditional Labour constituency in the NE.
Turnout about 25%
Results overwhelming for the Brexit party.
Labour next.
Then the LibDems.

He won’t last in the BP. Farage can’t help running the show and will be a pain in the a.. just as he was last time when it took 5 minutes for the UKIP mp to become an independent.

'As voters head to the polls in the Peterborough by-election, Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party may well gain its first seat in Westminster today.
But the new party campaigning hard for its first MP candidate Mike Greene has lost yet another senior figure to a fresh race hate scandal.
A campaign coordinator has been exposed as a former activist for the far-right, fascist British National Party.
Kevin Moore, appointed as campaign coordinator for the Brexit Party in Merseyside in May 2019, has been exposed as former European elections candidate for the white supremacist fascist BNP party.'

Just had this from a friend who lives in Belgium and has had a really bad couple of days trying to fly to the US. Two flights cancelled and luggage didn't arrive. They have offered him air miles in compensation or a voucher for future flights. He is insisting on the EU compensation.

EU261/2004 gives EU citizens protection from airlines for delayed and cancellations. In particular from US airlines and their poor business practices when operating from the EU (flights departing). When Brexit happens in the UK you will not be covered by EU261/2004. US airlines will be able to overbook, delay and cancel as they like with no accountability unless the UK puts a legislation in place to protect British consumers. In the long list of The Brexit mess...how low on the agenda do you think that is? Bottom line....I will never transfer to the US through the UK again.

Perhaps he has refused because meeting Donald Trump is more important to him?

The problem is democracy works by rules Nonnie. It seems we do not have Nigel's consent to those rules. May I suggest withdrawal of his British citizenship. It wouldn't surprise me if we found he has another one for another country readily available.

NF refuses to go to the hearing: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48516348?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_politics&ns_linkname=news_central

Thanks GG13 but I can't find that on Google. Do you think it might just be a proposal?

I did find this though from 2016 which I thought was interesting:

Many years ago, the UK banned the rearing of veal calves in crates. The EU eventually followed suit. UK rules on animal experimentation were eventually followed by EU directives. We may no longer be able to throw our weight around in the EU, but there is a wider world out there – UN specialised agencies, for example – dealing with international animal welfare and environmental matters where we should be proud to take a lead.

Full article: www.independent.co.uk/voices/if-we-cant-ban-halal-meat-we-should-at-least-let-people-know-when-theyre-buying-it-a7178481.html

Nonnie there is a way to tell if it’s Halal, something to do with a code on the packing if I recall correctly.

GG13 I like that it is traceable but think we should also be told whether it is halal or not. Sorry I know I've gone off thread but I think we have a right to know, just as we know what conditions our chickens have lived in. Perhaps we don't but labels tell us when they have been free-range.

Alexa I think all meat sold in the UK has to be “traceable” therefore it would have to be labelled as “originating” from the USA.

Yes, and when that chicken is imported from America and is on supermarket shelves Tesco or Sainsbury is hardly going to advertise AMERICAN CHLORINATED CHICKEN in a huge banner above the display. Customers will of course buy it and quite contented.

Me, it's another reason for me to go meat -free. American imports are coming make no misteak.

Alexa I saw that documentary last night, the undercover footage from the factory was appalling.

They had a large amount of recall on the products.

"Is this the fifth or sixth party political broadcast from the so-called brexit party that has been aired by the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation in the last week?"

Maybe, but the investigation aired yesterday about American meat hygiene puts Brexit economics into shady territory.

The address given is for The Brexit Party Limited, which sounds like a company, not a political party
Varian It isn’t a political party in the sense that it has no manifesto or policies and no members who have paid a subscription to be members, only supporters who have been recruited online, in a similar way to the Five Star movement in Italy.
The New York Times article explains all this. It’s actually quite frightening that NF has got so much support just through clever online marketing.

"He opposes extended maternity leave, raising the minimum wage and reducing the retirement age — anything that inconveniences his nouveau riche confederates. If he had his way, many of his supporters would be working harder, longer, for less money, with less protection." (Mon 03-Jun-19 10:31:33)

I hate to say it Ginny42, but on the forum that I visit that is for pensioners, where I would think the average age is the late 70s, they are very pro NF. I would feel pretty confident in saying that they would agree with the above. They are retired and, the men, in particular, want to protect their pensions from anything as outlandish and modern as extended maternity leave and do a very good impression of the "when I were young" sketch if you mention minimum income. I'm afraid they are everything we keep being told is not true of Leave voters. There is even strong support for Tommy Robinson. They just see Farage as a good thing in a way that is frightening in its lack of understanding or care for those working now. These people do exist.

I heard a "Brexit Party" MEP challenged on tv about whether the so-called "Brexit Party" was a political party or a company. She said it was a party and was then challenged to say how many members it had. She claimed lots.

Just out of curiosity, I googled thebrexitparty.org and found instructions about how to become a supporter but no way of becoming a member.

The address given is for The Brexit Party Limited, which sounds like a company, not a political party.

Is it possible that this MEP was lying?

Janeainsworth thanks

www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/opinion/nigel-farage-brexit.html

Yes, good article Jane thanks for the link. I like the comparison of NF as 'the Gordon Gekko of British politics'.

Interesting commentary on NF's views about class and how they would impact on many of his supporters should he achieve power.

'^He opposes extended maternity leave, raising the minimum wage and reducing the retirement age — anything that inconveniences his nouveau riche confederates. If he had his way, many of his supporters would be working harder, longer, for less money, with less protection.^'

'^Greed is good^' to quote Gekko in the film.

abbey I had the same issue with that link try this one, it may be the same info www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48491731