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Banning milkshakes to save Farage

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trisher Mon 20-May-19 15:56:03

Well Newcastle got him today but police in Edinburgh asked McDonald's not to sell milkshakes whilst he was there. What do you think? Is he fair game? Is it OK to target right wing politicians? Or should milkshakes be banned?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-48339711?

Day6 Fri 24-May-19 00:10:51

So, attacking an old man (81) - a premeditated act of violence, is OK by Remainers?

"A retired army veteran and Brexit Party supporter refused to abandon his post outside a polling station after he was attacked with a milkshake*

Don MacNaughton, 81, who served with the Paras for 22-years was covered in the strawberry drink by a "yob" who spotted his Brexit Party rosette

But the former soldier, who served in hot-spots all around the world, laughed off the attack saying strawberry was his favourite flavour.

Widower, Mr MacNaughton, who had been campaigning for Nigel Farage's party in his hometown of Aldershot, also refused to go home and change his soiled clothing following the incident on Thursday morning.

He told the Telegraph: "I’m not going anywhere and I’m not going to change out of these clothes, even though lots of people have offered me clean shirts. These are my war wounds and I’m keeping them on. And I’ll be here till the polling station shuts. It’s my duty.”

It's shameful. An old man is fair game for a Remainer because he voted to leave a political bloc? Yob rule now? Leavers have had to suffer three years of abuse and insults When will it end?

Day6 Thu 23-May-19 23:31:24

And who are these' other people that can run the party? Anne Widdecombe or Rees Moggs sister?

You obviously have no idea how fervent Leavers feel about the mess our government and parliament have made of the Brexit negotiations. In fact, who voted for negotiations? We voted to Leave.

I have very small scale political experience but I think many like me, ordinary, unremarkable people, would happily grab the banner and carry on should all Leave politicians of note fall by the wayside. Feeling is strong that this time Leavers should not roll over and die.

One thing Brits are noted for is their sense of fair play.

Eloethan Thu 23-May-19 22:47:40

I can't stand Farage or his politics but I disagree with throwing things at people (or surrounding them and screaming insults in their face). It's a premeditated act of aggression and the subject of the attack may momentarily fear something much worse than milkshake is being thrown at them.

However, although I accept it was wrong, I did have some sympathy with John Prescott when he - perhaps as an instinctive reaction - hit back at a man who threw an egg at him.

Witzend Thu 23-May-19 19:47:59

Mycatisahacker, I don't know - I can think of a few politicians who'd be improved by a rotten egg or two. Self-serving, lying slimeballs, so many of them - interested only in gaining power and staying there - who never give a straight answer, but slither around questions like oiled snakes.
I know they're not all the same, but there are more than enough who IMO deserve the egg treatment.

Fennel Thu 23-May-19 19:35:30

Thanks for the explanation halfgran.

halfgran Thu 23-May-19 19:17:15

A lot of cases from Newcastle are heard at North Shields magistrates since a shake up of the courts system a couple of years ago. Apparently Newcastle only hears criminal cases that can't be fit in at any other court and no custody cases as they have no holding cells since the adjacent police station was demolished.

Fennel Thu 23-May-19 17:10:19

trisher I wondered about that. Maybe he comes from North Shields?
Or the Newcastle magistrate's court has bigger things to worry about.
As I said at first, it was a childish action.

Beammeupscottie Thu 23-May-19 17:05:40

Out of about 350 entitled to vote in my ward, at 4 pm I was no.39!

DoesAnyoneKnow Thu 23-May-19 15:24:34

Many people in politics have lost the plot if they behave in this way. Momentum are on Twitter tweeting opponents covered in milkshake and Corbyn is calling people who want Brexit as being part of the far right by the looks of his tweet. It's not encouraging me to vote for Labour, I haven't been to the polling station yet.

trisher Thu 23-May-19 14:16:18

Can anyone explain to me why when the milkshake was thrown in the centre of Newcastle the bloke who did it has to appear at North Shields Magistrates court? (It's about 8 miles away) Could it be that the police think there might be demonstrations of support for him in Newcastle?

Beammeupscottie Thu 23-May-19 12:08:45

This story amused me. A drunk in central Manchester threatened Police with an object about to be hurled from his hand. Police fell back and drunk shouted "wanna share my Pot Noodle, come and take it from me".

Mycatisahacker Thu 23-May-19 12:06:09

Witzend

Times have changed though hasn’t they?

Acid attacks and violent stabbing are on the rise and we had an MP murdered in a terror attack.

I think you have to be clear on what Is and isn’t acceptable and abide by the law rather than seek to frighten and intimidate by actions.

Labaik Thu 23-May-19 11:57:17

I'm quite proud of living in a country where anger and frustration results in the throwing of milkshakes, especially as no one now has to actually throw one; just carry one. And I haven't felt proud of my country for a long time [and will possibly feel even more 'unproud' after the EU election results...] How long before we have to introduce a rule that no one carries a milk shake in a public place. It's Monster Raving Loony stuff [having said that they actually had some pretty sensible policies...]

Witzend Thu 23-May-19 11:52:35

In the good old days, it was rotten eggs or dead cats, etc. Milkshakes!
I don't know what the country's coming to

Beammeupscottie Thu 23-May-19 11:45:49

I think we should concede that Parliamentarians are possessed of fact and figures, re; Brexit, not aware of/interested in by Joe Public. Brexit, as hoped for in an emotional sense by Brexiteers is not deliverable, imo, unless you put the economy of the Country at peril. So not worth it.

Mycatisahacker Thu 23-May-19 11:40:09

Of course it’s milkshake and thankfully not acid and the charges and punishment that may follow would clearly be massively different.

However throwing things at anyone because you don’t agree with their views is horrible and anti democratic whether it’s over Farrage or the smashing of an egg into Corbyn s head.

It’s utterly unacceptable. To anyone on anyone for any reason

crystaltipps Thu 23-May-19 11:27:26

Most of parliament claim to want Brexit , but yet keep changing their minds about what that is. The promised made are undeliverable, there just needs some sane/ brave person to say that.

Elvive Thu 23-May-19 11:20:37

I can't understand why N didn't just take off his jacket and carry on instead of throwing a hissy fit.

Why do we not have the same level of pearl clutching and faux horror about Yaxley and the milkshake. Surely he is a politician going about his business?

Nonnie Thu 23-May-19 11:15:35

Maizie just seen your post above so please ignore what I said on the other thread.

Day6 I think I have asked you before why you think "by a parliament determined to remain in the EU". Please explain.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 23-May-19 10:20:22

labaik absolutely with you on that

MaizieD Thu 23-May-19 10:05:02

I would count that as violence, Beammeupscottie...

Agreed, Labaik. Not sure we'll ever return to any sort of normality, though.

Labaik Thu 23-May-19 09:56:58

Can't believe that there seems to be more discussion/concern about milkshake throwing than MP's being threatened with rape, death or, in fact actually being murdered. If and when this country returns to some sort of normality/sanity I think we should have an annual National Milkshake Day to celebrate.

Beammeupscottie Thu 23-May-19 09:50:46

He's lucky it wasn't Carnation in a tin.

MaizieD Thu 23-May-19 08:50:27

I really think that we need to establish a meaning for the word 'violent'.

Milkshakes are not violent. They don't cause physical hurt or injury.

This thread is well into snowflake territory.

Mycatisahacker Thu 23-May-19 08:39:07

I think everyone agrees with that Beckett