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Banning milkshakes to save Farage

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trisher Mon 20-May-19 15:56:03

Well Newcastle got him today but police in Edinburgh asked McDonald's not to sell milkshakes whilst he was there. What do you think? Is he fair game? Is it OK to target right wing politicians? Or should milkshakes be banned?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-48339711?

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 11:28:33

I will come back and elaborate on my first post. I do not agree with throwing things at people, intimidating people or throwing foul language at them. I hope that is now clear.

About the possibility that NF was behind it. Some of the suggestions I have seen is that, if you watch the video, he was surrounded by people and then suddenly the area on one side was almost clear. He had 4 heavies and on the video you see two 'not noticing' the man grinning and coming to throw the shake. It was a policeman who ran to restrain the man although the heavies were nearer. It appeared he had a pre-prepared tweet ready to send out after it happened. One person has suggested that there was hardly anyone to hear his speak so he needed an excuse to cancel it. These are SM comments which are not my opinions but do make my cynical mind think 'could it be true?'

Chewbacca Wed 22-May-19 11:18:53

NF has very few supporters on this thread, from what I've seen trisher. But condoning acts of violence, at any level, and to anyone, puts one at the same level as him doesn't it?

When MPs are resorting to wearing body cameras, whilst out and about at public meetings, simply because of the amount of verbal and physical violence that they receive, is indicative that reasoned, rational debate with those we don't agree with is no longer respected.

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 11:08:42

Just come back on after a day away and only read first page since my post so far but find it really interesting that people can read my post condemning it and ignore that part of it to suggest I condone it? When such comments are made I think they do 'protest too much. More later when I've read the rest.

trisher Wed 22-May-19 10:43:36

crystaltipps OMG it is scary. And perhaps a milkshake is just evidence that there are people in Newcastle who won't fall for him or his right wing policies and who will stand against this bigot no matter how much his supporters try to whitewash him.

jura2 Wed 22-May-19 10:42:11

Chewbacca, I agree, and have said throughout this thread that throwing that milkshake was wrong and unhelpful and turns him into a martyr and gets him sympathy.

But let's put a bit of perspective on this - this is the Farage who said to a public audience that he would 'pick up a gun and take to the streets' if Brexit is not delivered sad Just seen a video of young Femi, a remain activisit who is always calm, composed, well spoken and immensely well informed - being abused in the most appaling way at the Brexit P conference yesterday- drinks thrown at him, being called a fu**ing traitor, again and again- so the hypocrisy is vast.

crystaltipps Tue 21-May-19 22:31:45

Yes they do know, but now think he is a saviour come to rescue them and give them all the promised extra money, opportunities and better public services that are going to come our way when Brexit happens , or maybe 30 years after Brexit happens, who knows. Well at least it will be better than WW2 so It must be good.

trisher Tue 21-May-19 22:19:59

Sorry Fennel come late to the argument after a day out performing in a suffragette drama. I wonder at those people who keep telling me how anti-racist and non-fascist NF is. Do they not know his history? Do they not know he sang "Gas'em all" when he was a student, that he has been photographed in the company of some of the most right wing people around and that he has always held extreme right wing views?

Chewbacca Tue 21-May-19 21:41:19

It would appear, from reading some posts on this thread, that it's perfectly acceptable to throw missiles at someone, just so long as you don't agree with their point of view or dislike the politics of the recipient.

If a missile is thrown at someone who's views you respect and admire; then it's an outrage and should be condemned.

It's quite interesting to see who has double standards and can adjust their moral compass to suit.

Elvive Tue 21-May-19 21:13:09

What on earth EV........you can't say things like that? Poor little babies parading round in their suits and a baddie throws an egg at them or a milkshake?

You can't advocate violence surely?

Mycatisahacker Tue 21-May-19 20:48:10

Oops she!

What a terrible mistake and the acid commrnt!!! Eewww

crystaltipps Tue 21-May-19 20:28:13

Day 6 Who cares who formed it? But every word Brexit Party members put out about the present EU shambles is true. We have been deceived.
There are no Members of the Brexit Party except Farage. He spouts lies all the time. We can make a list

Callistemon Tue 21-May-19 20:24:02

I disapprove of perfectly good food being wasted.

maryeliza54 Tue 21-May-19 20:24:02

mycat she not he. I could hardly believe what she had tweeted. She’s been sacked btw.

Mycatisahacker Tue 21-May-19 20:10:08

Beckett

I hope he’s prosecuted for inciting violence.

Hideous words

Fennel Tue 21-May-19 20:07:58

Come on Trisher - what do you say?
Don't leave me on my own to defend Newcastle!

maryeliza54 Tue 21-May-19 20:00:53

POGS your description of it being a thrown egg was inaccurate and minimised the incident.

DoesAnyoneKnow Tue 21-May-19 19:57:52

Charities are about the employees, the service users are a side issue to gain revenue from government, business or the public - for these businesses now.

EllanVannin Tue 21-May-19 19:55:53

John Prescott gave a chap a left hook for throwing an egg at him-------well done to JP !

Beckett Tue 21-May-19 19:53:06

An official of a local Happiness Charity (they promote happiness in the city) has been suspended for tweeting:

"Bravo to Paul Crowther, good on you mate. Great that milkshakes have become a thing when it comes to the racists in our midst. I'd prefer acid but milkshakes will do for now I guess."

What has this country come to when someone who claims to be charitable makes such obnoxious comments.

POGS Tue 21-May-19 19:46:09

Maryeliza

POGS it wasn’t simply an egg thrown at JC and the fact that you are perpetuating this minimisation shows just how unbalanced the coverage of that incident was.
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I am not perpetuating any misinformation because I have not given any information other than to say it was wrong.

You are twisting one of my posts again, ironically even when I am defending Corbyn against being harassed.

POGS Tue 21-May-19 19:36:59

maryeliza

I did not trivialise anything.

I did not play partisan politics.

I stated whether it be Corbyn/Farage, left/right of politics the harrasment of politicians is not acceptable.

I stand by my point. If a person condones or agrees with what happened to either Corbyn/Farage they are part of the wider problem of the cess pit our politics and general behaviour which we are sadly now wallowing in.

It is either a principle or not.

varian Tue 21-May-19 19:30:49

Having spent some years living on Tyneside, I very much agree Fennell, but it is interesting to note that in the recent local elections on Tyneside, the LibDems picked up votes from Labour.

Fennel Tue 21-May-19 18:54:22

To those of you who are against violent protest, you're right.
What I meant was, most Tynesiders are kind, tolerant people with a lovely witty sense of humour. I grew up here, and still live here. After some time away.
But everywhere these days there seems to be some mentally deranged person who uses this kind of visit to express their feelings.
I see Farage as a selfseeking opportunist with fascist, racist views. Jumping on the bandwagon of the current worldwide 'populist ' movement.
He probably came because a lot of Tyneside constituencies voted Leave in the referendum. But in my view not because of racist views like his, but there's a strong sense of solidarity here, community spirit. We can survive on our own etc.

Mycatisahacker Tue 21-May-19 18:28:07

POGS

Google it actually it was a nasty attack on Corbyn and looked painful and frightening to be fair.

Agree though this has to stop.

maryeliza54 Tue 21-May-19 18:24:25

Well vintage good luck with reasoned argument with NF.