LGBT protest at school

I do wonder what you think is being taught Gonegirl and if you would recognise your own prejudices.

But is it alright for the Islamic community to teach condemnation of the gay community?

Gonegirl it is you and these parents who are focusing on this one area. The children will also be learning how to "include" their school fellows with special needs, with English as a second language, who live with their grandparents, anything which one child may see as different in the other and why not discriminating makes it a good world for us all.

No one is saying that GracesGran, Just quietly leave it out of their curriculum, at this age. We don't need any more islamaphobia. Or hatred of the rest of us by the islamic community.

Yes. Definitely teach respect for others at an early age.

To late "Mycat". We need to stop the sort of bigotry that is causing the backlash from being in one more generation. If I was going round saying children must be taught Muslims are lesser beings or not taught anything at all so that they don't hear a different view go from the one they hear at home, there would be bell to pay. This is no different.

When the parents, and the rest of their community, are so strongly against it, there is no point in encouraging conflict.

Teach the children to be kind and thoughful towards each other in general. Don't focus on this one subject.

Nothing will change nasty little bullies. It's all down to their home upbringing. Or lack of it.

It's perfectly alright to try though, if it is in accordance with the parents' beliefs.

This school is 98% muslim. Let the parents decide on this point.

Definitely anything that concerns children's religious upbringing.

You’d think 10 or 11 wouldn’t you but actually 6 and 7 year olds frequently call other children “gay” as a bullying term and taunt them for what they see as “girly” behaviour such as not liking football or wearing the ‘wrong” sort of clothes.

If the taunting starts early shouldn’t the teaching of respect for others start early too?

Gone girl this is part of the curriculum for the whole of the country. Which part of it will you allow parents to pick and choose next?

In this country It is considered wrong to value some people more than others and children need to learn about that and what it means. All children benefit from this and I can see no reason why the views of the man or woman down the road should influence this. No one is stopping them explaining to their children that the do not "believe" in whatever. Jehovah's witnesses, etc, have always had to explain to their children why they don't celebrate birthdays, Christmas or Easter and have managed it.

I would think the sensible approach would be to introduce these inclusion lessons at an older age. Maybe 10/11.

I would also hope that the content of these lessons and books was rigorously examined by ofsted or other relevant bodies and open to scrutiny

DoesAnyoneKnow do you or do you not think the books in question should be used in this particular school. A straight 'yes' or 'no' answer would be greatly appreciated.

pddyann I would think those taunts just came from nasty people.Nothing will change that.

muslims (?) muslems (?)

Oh for heaven's sake! I have just seen this in the link Doesanyoneknow put up.

Parkfield Community School, a Birmingham primary with a 98% Muslim intake

Why on earth can't they simply bow to the paents' wishes and not have this line of teaching? (the remaining 2% of the kids could hyave a little private lesson)

That school is just encouraging conflict between muslems and non-muslems.

I think the younger a child is introduced to same sex parents /relationships the easier they accept them.Otherwise the taunts of "gay boy" that one of my sons friends suffered will continue.People are people what they do or dont do in the privacy of their own home is none of my business but what other folk say to them and bring their children up to say to them is .Bigotry breeds bigotry and if the books help stop little bigots all well and good .

I hope the links helped, this is far more complex than it first appears.

I am not a Muslim. If they want to believe in their Holy book that is none of my business, they should not be forced to believe something they don't. They should not force their benefits onto me.

I am not queer. If they want to believe in that males are female, that biology doesn't exist, that males are Mummy, that males are lesbians that is none of my business, they should not be forced to believe something they don't. They should not force their benefits onto me.

I am not a flatearther. If they want to believe in the earth is flat that is none of my business, they should not be forced to believe something they don't. They should not force their benefits onto me.

None should be outsiders, yet it appears some are more equal than others in the oppression Olympics.

Ok thank you for sharing that.

I don't like lies.

I don't like autistic and gay children having their bone development restricted, their IQ reduced, their overall health compromised and in the case of the suspended Webberley GPs patients - given cross sex hormones.

I don't like people being told they can't refuse a partner for an intimate relationship.

I don't like people being told that they aren't allowed to hold a belief or forced to believe something they do not.

I don't like parents being refused the right to protect their children from ideology that can cause confusion in adults.

DoesAnyoneKnow

Thanks for the link and it was so interesting. Could I ask you and obviously you can refuse.

what Is your angle on this? From a feminist viewpoint?

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

DoesAnyoneKnow you are taking this far beyond anything that is being said in the schools.

All they seem to be suggesting is that, in this country, just because my family may not look like your family, we still treat people with kindness and ensure all are included, in this case, within the group that is the school and in the wider case (as children get older) within the structures of the country. It is nothing to do with religion.

It does appear that what some are saying is that there are people, for whatever reason they put forward, who should not be treated in an inclusive way. That could well be illegal and certainly not what our schools -all our schools -have been instructed to teach. I would not personally, want my children or grandchildren subjected to such bigotry.

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