LGBT protest at school

Mmmm drag queens really? Seriously is that fact or fiction?

Eloethan

Yep Jacob Reece mogg supports the parents. He isn’t a Muslim last time I looked

Parents have been demonstrating outside Parkfield School in Birmingham since January because No Outsider books were read to a child audience by drag queens. BBC reported that Drag Story Time was to 'celebrate diversity'.

I would have been very unhappy if my D had experienced that in Primary school. This seems far more appropriate for a secondary school curriculum.

Oh bugger

urmstrongran

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Okay Mycat and janeainsworth I will read up on this a bit more tomorrow. Perhaps taking it at face value I have been a little naive?

I’ll get back to you!
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I'm absolutely with the school on this. What I would describe as "indoctrination" would be parents who implant the idea in young people's minds that gay people are outside of normal society and their relationships are, at best, abnormal and inferior and, at worst, an abomination. Homosexuality is no longer illegal but discrimination based on a person's sexuality is, so, apart from the fact that it's wrong to ignore discriminatory behaviour, it's important that children should consider not only the ethical but also the legal perspective.

I believe that there should be acceptance of dress codes and religious beliefs in public life. However, I also think that when religious beliefs and cultural norms impinge on the lives of other minorities and lead to intolerant attitudes and behaviour directed at them, that needs to be addressed.

I would just mention, though, that I'm fairly sure some parents in other schools have objected to their children having sex education lessons dealing with subjects such as homosexuality, contraception, etc., so this attitude is not exclusively a Muslim one.

urmstongran

To be honest when I first heard this I was ‘for goodness sake they are kids’ but other posters and google show it’s very mild and in no way like the awful mermaids nonsense from the radical LGBT quarter.

The protesters remind me of those around abortion clinics.

Frightening

Okay, that’s me told.

Urmstongran I don't think it's a storm in a teacup when people are protesting aggressively and threateningly outside a school.
School staff should be able, in a civilised country, to go to their place of work without intimidation or the fear of intimidation.
Parents who don't oppose this teaching should be able to take their children to school without intimidation.

And it's one thing to withdraw your children from RE lessons because you don't practise that particular religion.
It's quite different from withdrawing your children because some elements of your own religion oppose what is being taught.
In 2020, relationships education will be legally compulsory.

Agree maryeliza perhaps a bad choice of word. Provided of course it is as you say, just an illustration of alternative family lifestyles. Children absorb information like sponges. They are so innocent.

Couldn’t this type of education wait until secondary school? They seem so young to be thus educated and for what? Possibly 2% of families?

Agree urm

And yes Maryeliza agree it’s the term promoting that’s the problem.

However fervently religious people are often not reasonable are they?

Urm I think using the word ‘promotion.’ is playing into the protesters hands. Just like the dreadful S28 which banned the ‘promotion’ if homosexuality in schools. If my dgc have a story read to then at school which has two mummies in it with their daughter, that’s not ‘promoting’ lesbianism life styles and parenting but just illustrating one of the ways in which people organise their lives and relationships. Just as I’d hope they read stories with just a mummy or daddy or a character in a wheelchair or black.

Oh Mycat I must be seriously behind the times then.
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I think religion ought to be totally kept out of school. Do what you like, at the weekends, as a family.

School is for (secular) learning, in my opinion.

Are you actually allowed to withdraw kids from certain lessons now? I know you used to be able to but think you can’t now???

Wise people post if this is true please

I don’t know urmstrongran

I am from brum and the whole Trojan horse situation so basically picking radical Muslim staff and separating kids by sex is still very raw here.

Many little girls wear head coverings to school and I mean 5/6/7 year olds.

I think we do need to be vigilant of our western values.

I think it’s a storm in a teacup. The parents who don’t want their children to hear the promotion of ‘alternative’ parenting could just have their children excused those particular lessons, surely?

Years ago, Jehovah witness children in my school were allowed to be exempt from morning assembly where hymns were sung.

Sorted.

Well absolutely janeainsworth couldn’t agree more as I said upthread

They of course have the right to an opinion
Of course they do mycat, they also have the right to peaceful protest.
What they don’t have the right to is aggressive, intimidating behaviour towards other people who are only doing their job and upholding the law.

Reece mogg supports the parents by the way

Right thanks iam64 and ilovecheese the books sound quite age appropriate and gentle.

Ellanvanin

They of course have the right to an opinion but say the flat earth society wanted their beliefs taught in school to their children or creationists??

Schools have to safe places to teach western values and respect for the law.

As long as it’s age appropriate surely that’s fine. and right really.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-birmingham-48339080
“Shakeel Afsar is the leader of the Anderton Park protests, although he has no children at the school.

He said the school had pulled "the shutters down" on parental engagement and was promoting LGBT lifestyles to children.

He said 600 pupils were kept from school on Monday "to make it crystal clear we will not have our children indoctrinated or participating in any social engineering programmes which undermine our family values by promoting child sexualisation". “

So what exactly do you think his point is, ellanvannin?

From what you say Iam64 the books sound harmless enough, and children take most things like that in their stride anyway.
It’s the law so the parents can’t do much about it really.
I do wonder how those same parents think that keeping anything at all sexually controversial( not that it is, these days!) under wraps, will help their growing children.
The children are living in a modern country, not a medieval
Religious fiefdom somewhere.

Don’t feed the beast?

parents people

Iam64
'through the gambit of parents...'?
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