LGBT protest at school

maddy I’m really with you on this. I find the word queer hard to say because it used to have such negative connatations. Like the n word. I do know that both queer and the n word have been reclaimed by some ( not all) parts of the relevant communities - just like some disabled people use the word cripple. However I really don’t think that everyone in all those groups accept those words. Stonewall does not speak for the totality of the whole gay community and its stance on transgender issues and lesbians is roundly condemned by many gay and transgender people themselves. It would be interesting to know what your son felt about the use of that word.
DAK I think the main problem I have with your posts is that you are presenting a particular perspective as one that is universally accepted and it really isn’t .

Your son can Google the cotton ceiling.

I assume as xx chromosome lesbians are considered transphobic bigots for refusing transwomen xy chromosome (Stonewall insist transwomen are women) that your son refusing a transman is also a transphobic bigot.

Good luck telling your sons community if you don't like the term queer the term comes from them.

Here is his political lobbying group speaking for him and telling us what he backs, you will see he is no longer same sex attracted he is apparently same gender attracted, so a biological female transman according to his community should be ok for him.

www.stonewall.org.uk/help-advice/glossary-terms

I have to go now.

I do have a problem with people being described as ‘queer’ if that was the intention from what I’ve read. People are not ‘queer’, they are gay, or trans, or whatever. My son is gay, as I said up thread, he is not ‘queer.’ He is a practicing barrister at a top London set of chambers. He is the father of a six year old boy, and he takes his responsibilities very seriously. You would not know he is gay if you met him, he is tall, professional, and a lovely father, he is not camp at all. Why should he be described as ‘queer?’ I don’t like it.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=HJB1gcAp65s

Ch4 filmmaker, he has never come across anything like the trans lobby before in his 20 years. He is currently working on a Palestinian and Israeli documentary and not experiencing anything like the trans lobbyists behavior.

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Meeting hosted by ex Labour MP, Lord Moonie psychiatrist last week.

Got a busy day.

www.transgendertrend.com/first-do-no-harm-ethics-transgender-healthcare-house-of-lords/

Human Rights Committee - EXTRACT
Wednesday 1 May 2019 Meeting started at 3.16pm, ended 4.52pm

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0364bfc3-5adc-4aef-99bd-48c68daacc38?in=15:27:30&out=15:50:30

This is what happened when an MP last made it clear she's a non queer theory believer, hence why MPs today wouldn't define woman.

Some of the people giving evidence to parliament today.

mobile.twitter.com/K_IngalaSmith/status/1131286301259567104

mobile.twitter.com/dianalouisej/status/1131224684320743425

Fair enough DoesAnyoneKnow

I will leave you to do your own critical thinking and further research if you so choose, I have a busy few days ahead.

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/joanna-cherry-given-police-escort-after-death-threat-1-4921424

Only a few students that don't matter? That MP got death threats for believing a woman is defined by biology.

mobile.twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1131260654495641600

Transphobic*

I have had periods, have given birth 3 times to 4 children and am now officially through a hideous menopause with HRT.

Well apparently you're a transposing bigot, like myself because you believe woman is based on biology.

There my first paragraph defines woman!

It's like children discovering Father Christmas isn't real and shooting the messenger , alas this is the reality of queer theory and it's being pushed top down onto society as an ideology. I recommend you have a cup of tea and watch MPs in action.

I have had periods, have given birth 3 times to 4 children and am now officially through a hideous menopause with HRT.

I do get you are concerned Does and in the light of the hideous Alabama situation women’s rights need to be guarded but as you say its ‘student union types’ and are generally silly kids best ignored.

What a load of old nonsense. Nobody should be excluded, mocked or harmed but why must sex and sexuality be pushed onto little children?

Eglantine21

Umm, a very, very angry person - if you’re anything to go by....

What is your definition of woman?

Women and equality committee and woman's aid can't define what a woman is.

I don't think it's mainstream amongst most people, it's mainstream amongst professionals, students union types in LGBTQ+ communities and politicians, it's like the Emperor's new clothes.

Look for yourself, this was parliament today.

parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0d07ff13-636e-4b51-a946-2877e583dc4c

Having read the posts on this thread I can only wish that these lessons, age appropriate as the are, and all the way through education had been available for some of our posters.

Ilovecheese is right, No Outsiders isn't teaching children they're in the wrong body. It's age appropriate, fits with the laws and mainstream social beliefs in our country and doesn't in truth challenge any ordinary folks.

there's no suggestion teachers will tell children their mummy and daddy are wrong as Gonegirl fears. Most primary school teachers are skilled at negotiating the different cultures, lifestyles and belief systems their children present.

The only fear I have is that some Muslim/evangelical/orthodox parents will use this issue as an excuse to take their children out of mainstream. They're the very children who need to be exposed to more than rigid belief systems that say eg, if your'e gay, you'll burn in hell.