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LGBT protest at school

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Iam64 Mon 20-May-19 20:29:40

Head teacher at Anderton County Primary school has been threatened because the school issuing the Outsider books. Jess Philips is the local MP, she attended today to support the school and was told by one protester that those who support the use of the books were islamophobic. I'm in support of the schools, the books and Jess Philips.

Anniebach Wed 22-May-19 11:43:28

Homosexuals have been beaten up, even murdered, not by people with religious beliefs, but by thugs who find the thought of two men having sex is disgusting

Eglantine21 Wed 22-May-19 11:38:47

Oh Elvira, if only that were true.

Many people and religions believe that homosexuality is a sin and should be punished. In this country.

And take that punishment into their own hands.

Anniebach Wed 22-May-19 11:38:43

Agree with Ellan and Elvive

trisher Wed 22-May-19 11:37:35

EllanVannin what a lot of bias and bigotry! I worked with a man who for years had to keep his sexuality secret. He was a brilliant teacher and being able to celebrate his civil partnership was so joyful and liberating for everyone. He never promoted his sexuality to children but he was quick to spot when the other boys were teasing a child who was obviously different and he dealt with it quietly, but made it absolutely clear to the boys that their behaviour wasn't acceptable, at the same time reassuring the victim that he would find his place in society. The idea that children live this protected life and don't absorb society's prejudices and act on this unless someone teaches them better is ridiculous. Suppose someone comes from a racist family and brings this into school wouldn't you expect the school to teach them better? If so why not teach different sexuality as well? Because there are still a lot of families where children are taught homosexuality is a sin.

Elvive Wed 22-May-19 11:31:04

What a load of old codswallop. Nobody wants to hurt people because of their sexuality, those days are gone ( in this country) thank God.

This obsession with sex and difference and gender is totally inappropriate for children. Let them be bloody children. They are pretty clued up most of the time anyway.

EllanVannin Wed 22-May-19 11:26:27

No wonder there's so many mental health issues among children-------they're confused at being indoctrinated by those with nothing else better to do than to foist their own personal views on everyone.
If it's not being dictated to on what to eat/drink/and how much, what to wear or not, it's now become another dictatorship about what gender you'd prefer to be. The world's gone completely mad.
Who needs a government ? It's society who's doing the dictating !!

DoesAnyoneKnow Wed 22-May-19 11:15:13

It's not uncommon in universities for what you once would consider a heterosexual couple, to now be part of the LGBTQ+ community, they are the Q.

trisher Wed 22-May-19 11:10:00

Q is Queer or questioning Gonegirl

trisher Wed 22-May-19 11:07:45

maryeliza54 a teacher says that this is not acceptable in our school to a young child and gradually builds on that as the child gets older to say that there are consequences in society for agressive behaviour. What they don't do is stop teaching non-agression because a parent is agressive.

Gonegirl Wed 22-May-19 11:02:58

Going off topic now me.

maryeliza54 Wed 22-May-19 11:01:55

Yep Ginny I am definitely advocating that schools teach values of equality and respect for differences that are enshrined in our laws. I’m sure it’s not done by crassly stating your parents are wrong. What does a teacher do when a child hits another and the child says ‘my dad said to hit back when you’re hit’. ?

Gonegirl Wed 22-May-19 11:01:39

What is the 'Q" now being added?

Gonegirl Wed 22-May-19 11:00:31

God help them is all I can say to that trisher. Although I've no doubt some, perhaps many, of the Muslim population are becoming more enlightened.

trisher Wed 22-May-19 10:56:07

One thing no-one on here seems to be looking at is what about the Muslim child who is gay? Who knows from an early age that he/she is not the same? And believe me you can sometimes tell even at 6 that someone is different to their peers. Does that child not have the right to know that although they may not be accepted by the religion they are born into the wider world has a place for them? You might also consider the LGBTQ teachers who have a right to know that their lifestyles are respected and don't have to be hidden away any longer.

Gonegirl Wed 22-May-19 10:53:50

Have you got that link right DoesAnyone?

Ginny42 Wed 22-May-19 10:51:56

Some posters are advocating teaching some children that their parents are wrong. Dangerous ground in my opinion when the children are still at the age of thinking of their parents as the centre of their world.

Gonegirl Wed 22-May-19 10:51:13

DoesAnyone do you mean that Victoria Derbyshire advocates medicating kids who dress outside the social norm? I hope not. I'm against that.

My DGS bought a pair of pink shorts the other day, and is now on the lookout for a yellow trench coat. wink

EllanVannin Wed 22-May-19 10:47:36

For goodness sake, be fair. We are a multicultural society so give the Muslims a chance to have and listen to their say too.

EllanVannin Wed 22-May-19 10:45:24

I'm with the Muslim religion here !

This is auto-suggestion and blatant brainwashing of young vulnerable and impressionable children. It's wrong !

DoesAnyoneKnow Wed 22-May-19 10:34:23

I find different opinions interesting, if you listen to Shiela Jeffries here m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yu9enVjNs8&feature=youtu.be , she seems to have a different opinion to Victoria Derbyshire who spoke about this topic today and has been advocating medicating children who like to dress outside of social norms.

Gonegirl Wed 22-May-19 09:35:57

I don't think much of the comments now being directed at DoesAnyoneKnow. In fact, the "your comments incomprehensible, cold and odd" one is unbelievable!

DoesAnyoneKnow Wed 22-May-19 09:35:49

Project away, as I said previously be happy.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 22-May-19 09:21:21

Man not mad

GracesGranMK3 Wed 22-May-19 09:19:44

You now seem to be getting angry because people do not agree with you DoesAnybodyKnow and have decided the answer is to make personal attacks. Everybody just writes as they write. I can see you have already conveyed to your children a prejudice against anyone who seems, in someway, not like them. I assume it is to late for education to turn that around.

I do agree that a straw-mad argument was thrown into the mix but that was by you when you dragged in Queer Theory - a throwback to the 1990s.

Alexa Wed 22-May-19 09:16:19

"Yes I do want children to be introduced to values and concepts that conflict with the faith in their home - that gay people are not evil, that men and women are equal for starters would do very nicely thank you."

Me too MaryEliza! 'Faith' schools( and fee paying schools) should be abolished as they are basically divisive and fail to teach modern morality.