The unofficial 2nd EU referundum taking place today 23rd May 2019

I’m not bothered which way the French people vote Labaik I just the establishment need to listen properly to their voter’s concerns. Not all Europeans like the way the EU is run and so they show their displeasure at the ballot box.

I am simply challenging the idea that only "populist" politicians can be considered "reprehensible".

...or does it worry you at all?

I don't think that answers my question really. Are you personally pleased that the will of the people seems to be veering in a right wing/fascist direction?

I suppose Labaik it just illustrated how elections do throw up ‘the will of the people’ by democratic votes. It doesn’t always go the way polls or politicians expect.

Pesky buggers these voters!

Read about it yesterday. All good news. "Hallelujah" chorus at full volume.

Urmstongran; 'Just heard that Mr Macron’s europhile Renaissance faces being beaten into second place by Marine Le Pen’s National Rally!'...can I ask if you are pleased that Le Pen is doing so well? And, if so, why ?

EllanVannin
Russia is a tad scary if you think of all the shenanigans real or imagined but that's precisely what I like.
I even saw the innocuous door in the very high wall, behind which were/ are labrinthine corridors within buildings where nerve gasses and other noxious substances were 'produced'.

But Nonnie, you say that you cannot remember what he said.
I was merely trying to help jog your memory by suggesting words or phrases he might have used.

I didn't say that I disbelieve you but, such a 'shocking' thing as trying to influence a vote would imprint the spoken words onto my consciousness.
Anyway...you're over it now and no harm done.
You'll be informed of the steps they've taken to sanction the perpetrator and the lady to whom you complained will no doubt have a record of the words he said to you.
Have a cuppa and calm down.

I may be mistaken here, but hadn’t you already voted Nonnie?

Anyway I really don’t imagine that anyone would be influenced by someone doing that at the gate, however, this shouldn’t be done by anyone, and I imagine I would be quite cross if it happened to me too.

G54 that is simply insulting, you know I'm not stupid. He wanted us to vote Brexit, very clear and in front of witnesses. You should be ashamed of yourself but clearly are not. You won't accept the truth and it is hardly as if I am a new poster or one who has previously lied. I am not and haven't.

He might have gestured to one side and said 'There is a booth and, pointing to the doorway, said ' and that way is out'.

Perhaps the 'remark' was along the lines of 'Don't forget to leave the pencil in the booth before leaving or 'on your way out'.
We haven't been told exactly what was said by the guy which allegedly led the poster to think he was trying to influence her vote.
Clarity would be a help.

Smile they are not allowed to attempt to influence voting!

Fire you really are too low. Do you really imagine I would engage with such a person in a polling station? Of course I wouldn't my morals would not allow me to encourage someone to break the law.

It is absolutely fundamental to democracy that all those involved in running an election are totally impartial. I thought that everyone understood this. Apparently not.

Anyway Nonnie perhaps you should have listened you are always posting that Leavers won't tell you why we voted leave you might have had your questions answered ?

I wanted to visit Russia a few years back but because brother was attached to GCHQ at the time had advised me against going.

Where as I agree that it's inappropriate for someone handing out ballot papers to see it as an opportunity to campaign, I don't understand why you regarded this as an attempt to influence your vote Nonnie.

Surely, all campaigning is an attempt to influence or was there more to it?

Sorry but I find this hard to believe re trying to influence your vote.

We voted at about 1 pm and were told it was much busier than usual, even busier than the busy local elections.

Interesting that no one has picked up on my post where I explained that the man handing us our papers tried to influence our vote.

On BBC website they showed a couple who had hand delivered their forms to the local council on 2 May and were denied a vote at the polling station. The CCTV proved they were right and it was found that the council hadn't opened them until 16 May which was too late.

The Electoral Commission in on the case of EU citizens denied a vote. I imagine there will be areas where the result is marginal and their votes would have made a difference.

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I quite like some of what I've read about Vladimir Putin and I like the Russia I saw on two visits years ago.p
It's the intrigue which intrigues me - an iron fist in a steel gauntlet, certainly not the velvet glove which Maggie would have worn.
I do like all the stuff that goes on under the radar, mostly in the USA and Russia.

Maddyone:
Will Putin be pleased with Brexit voters, why?

Buffybee:
What a load of scaremongering rubbish......

I find comments like these unbelievably naive. What will it take for us to take the threat of Russia seriously? More than Salisbury, obviously. The Kremlin seeks to exploit and increase divisions within the EU. It is in Russia's interest to weaken us. We seem determined to help them.

"Isn’t a second referendum undemocratic? This is perhaps the most contentious question as it gets right down to the heat of the debate, but I’m afraid there is nothing undemocratic about a second referendum.

People are allowed to change their mind, just like people are allowed to vote for a different MP during general elections if they are unhappy with the performance of their current one.

When the first referendum was held in 2016, the options were rudimentary, and while Remain had an obvious definition, Leave had multiple definitions and promises attached. Would we adopt a Norway style agreement? Would we continue to be part of the Single Market? What happens to EU citizens? Will there be £350m a week more to go to the NHS? How easy will it be to sign a trade agreement with the EU afterwards?

In the two years since that vote, a lot of those questions have been answered, and not in the way which was promised. There will be no more money for the NHS, a Norway style deal is not on the cards without negotiation and compromises that the current Government seem unwilling to make, and so far we have only signed six trade agreements and one of them is with the Faroe Islands - our 114th largest trading partner.

The Brexit realities (and limitations) are clear, and Parliament is seemingly deadlocked over the way forwards, so now is the time for the people to indicate the direction they want to go. "

www.voicemag.uk/blog/5175/the-democratic-argument-behind-a-people-s-vote?gclid=Cj0KCQjwrJ7nBRD5ARIsAATMxss-EdalPJNSSq45pEd7-cW9i4uah_08poUAeOFmm6DlhnZW1Isc9KAaAupuEALw_wcB

Believe me, I don't need a campaign by Putin to undermine my faith in democracy at the moment.
And his warning re a second referendum would be correct.