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Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 11:43:40

Here you are.

All Corbyn critics etc can now have a thread all to yourselves.

Anniebach Mon 03-Jun-19 12:52:59

No views on Alastair being expelled from the Labour Party for voting for the Libs but no one else who has said they did the same not being expelled ?

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 12:51:17

I agree Grany and I think many others do. I think possibly nationalisation should go further. I think water and the railways are a great start but I think there is a case for providing all utilities through non-profit making organisations. It seems wrong to me that in a civilised country there are people making money from what should be the basics of life. Especially as it is the poorest who through metered accounts pay more for their fuel than the rest of us.

Grany Mon 03-Jun-19 12:45:16

trisher I agree let's talk polices. Labour have loads of excellent polices in their manifesto for the many.

Anniebach Mon 03-Jun-19 12:25:00

trisher i will discuss policies if and when I choose , very wise not to hold your breath

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 11:44:45

I think Annie we have all heard your opinion of the leader ad nauseam. It would be nice if just for change you could try discussing policies. But I won't hold my breath.
Here's a try though. Do you support the re-nationalisation of the railways?

Anniebach Mon 03-Jun-19 10:39:09

the Leader of a party doesn’t matter ?

So 50000 have more say at a general election than 47 million voters

Why can’t the far left see a leader has to reach out across the country ?

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 10:38:34

What's wrong with that Annie I hope you aren't linking Zionism with all Jews? All Jews are not Zionists in fact many abhor it. (And no matter what he said he couldn't have fiddled the number of people attending a Labour rally)

Anniebach Mon 03-Jun-19 10:32:32

Richard Burgon, the same Richard Burgon who denied saying ‘Zionism is the enemy of peace’, footage was found of Burgon saying ‘Zionism is the enemy of peace’.

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 10:29:52

Granygreat to see and I noted every age group represented in that gathering. Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually see on GN a little discussion about policies and the party instead of the perpetual condemnation of Corbyn, He leads the party but the 50000+ members are what matter.

Grany Mon 03-Jun-19 10:25:49

Labour Roots Event.

twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1135138425756143616?s=20

Grany Mon 03-Jun-19 10:21:02

Labour Roots. A mass movement of people powered socialist politics

twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1135136989831974912?s=20

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 19:02:27

POGS principles and Corbyn ? I just don’t understand how he can be defended as a man of principle

I await the defence ‘ Willsman isn’t anti semetic he is pro
Palastine .

As for AUTO EXPEL, a lie yet he will be defended .

Fennel Fri 31-May-19 18:10:13

I've said a few times that I'm disappointed in Corbyn. I voted for him because I liked his priciples, but on the condition that he was able to unite the factions in the party. Cracks that have existed for many years. He couldn't/wouldn't do it.
I'm beginning to think that both the LP and the Tories have now outlived their lifespan. Historically and politically the world has moved on from the times they were created. Still changing fast, and won't go back.
A new political movement is needed, but not the Brexit party, or the LibDems.
And not just here, but in all European countries.

POGS Fri 31-May-19 17:39:36

Anniebach

The ' I am Spartacus' mood felt by by some Labour members to make it known they too voted for other parties has proven what is felt by many that Campbell was so disliked by Corbyn / Jeremy for Leader/Momentum etc. that has taken over the Labour Party it was seen as a chance to be rid of Campbell. Backfired.

I thought Corbyn was a man of principle according to some.

If voting for another party is cause for Labour to exercise the process of ' AUTO EXPELL' and only 1 Labour Member is booted out how the hell is that standing on a ' principle'?

Certainly a case of ' playing the man not the ball ' which it appears only fools some.

As for Pete Willsman how many times as his name been in the mix over the years of discussing anti-semitism in the Labour Party. Talk about chickens coming home to roost.

Corbyn and those who surround him do Labour no good as a party and I hope as the years tick by at least some of those who joined / returned to Labour because of Corbyn and those who surround him start to accept he is a man with many flaws and if and when blatent / factual evidence is put forward they at least think before denying anything and everything he does which has been the case.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 16:04:23

So Pete Willsman has been suspended not expelled , no surprise there. Damn hypocrites

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 12:42:07

So more labour members have publicly stated they voted Lib yet only Alastair has been expelled, seems trisher is right, - revenge .

Today a member of the executive committee has been recorded making anti semetic allegations, will he be expelled by tomorrow? He is a close friend of Corbyn !

Anniebach Thu 30-May-19 16:50:56

So, MacDonald, Thornberry,Stamer, Watson support a second referendum, McClusky is against,,

Corbyn believes we must honour the referendum and vote on the deal,

He does like that fence doesn’t he

jura2 Thu 30-May-19 16:31:17

And after all that- Shami says L will probably campaign for Leave if there is a Confirmatory vote - and JC still will not commit to having 'remain' on the ballot.

Despair is not even the word.

Anniebach Thu 30-May-19 13:10:51

Corbyn wants to honour the results of the referendum

jura2 Thu 30-May-19 12:54:53

she is also saying they will probably support Brexit in a Ref sad

Anniebach Thu 30-May-19 09:02:03

Sorry, she said they should review it.

Anniebach Thu 30-May-19 08:41:04

Baroness Sharmi has said they are reviewing their decision
to expel Alastair Campbell

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-May-19 13:53:20

?

maryeliza54 Wed 29-May-19 13:35:12

Well ww no one can say you aren’t a trier. I often wonder where you get your stamina from.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-May-19 13:30:58

mary I’ve given up