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Labour anti-semitism

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Anniebach Tue 28-May-19 12:04:55

The equality and human rights commission have launched
an investigation

Anniebach Sun 30-Jun-19 14:05:33

Grandad1943

Yvette Cooper apologised to the Jewish community for the anti semitism in the Labour Party.

trisher asked if she had apologised to the Palestinians, no idea why she thought Yvette should , best you ask her.

Grandad1943 Sun 30-Jun-19 13:59:26

Anniebach Quote [and do explain why Yvette Cooper should apologise to Palastinians trigger] End Quote.

I too cannot find where Yvette Cooper has apologised to the Palestinians in recent weeks for any actions of the Labour Party.

Perhaps Margret Hodge could explain that to this forum, but then again, anyone asking her any difficult questions would no doubt be accused of antisemitism. grin

Anniebach Sun 30-Jun-19 12:54:53

whitewave I think you meant ‘gosh I wouldn’t like to be’

True, I will never stop speaking out against racism

Whitewavemark2 Sun 30-Jun-19 12:42:16

Gosh I would like to be a friend or family member and raise your ire annie you never leave off do you?

Anniebach Sun 30-Jun-19 12:36:57

Wonder why Corbyn has apologised several times for anti
semitism in the Labour Party , is he a sheep

Johno Sun 30-Jun-19 12:13:44

People are like sheep. They dont want evidence. Its time they woke up. I will bet my last dollar that Corbyn has done nothing wrong.... by the way, I do not like nor support the Labour party.

Johno Sun 30-Jun-19 12:11:17

I note that the MSM never publishes any evidence. Also the fact the allegations against Corbyn et al. are timed for publishing during certain campaigns, so this is obviously an agenda. I dont like it that any comments about Israel are twisted to mean antisemitism. I have heard people complain and slag off Corbyn yet when you ask them what "antisemitism means they dont have a clue. Orwell has never been more relevant.

trisher Sat 29-Jun-19 22:09:02

The Palestinians are amongst the most opressed people on the planet Annie they have been robbed of land, subjected to attacks, and denied medical help. The west has done little or nothing to protect or care for them. We should all be apologising to them, especially anyone who believes in human rights.
But can you explain further exactly what racism has Yvette Cooper apologised for? I've Googled it but nothing came up.

Anniebach Sat 29-Jun-19 21:10:16

Not possible racism, racism , and do explain why Yvette Cooper should apologise to Palastinians trisher

trisher Sat 29-Jun-19 21:07:42

So you are really only concerned with possible racism and not with the actuallities of life for some people Annie that's interesting but not very socialist.

trisher Sat 29-Jun-19 21:05:09

I live very close to a large Orthodox Jewish community and a growing Islamic community. Guess which has been the focus of more hate crime?
I don't suppose the victims are really concerned about the in-fighting, point soring and power play within the Labour Party.They just want to live peaceful safe lives.

Anniebach Sat 29-Jun-19 19:47:49

What rubbish trisher , she apologised for the racism in a political party which she is a member of.

Why should she apologise to the Palastinians ?

You really are desperate to write such a post

trisher Sat 29-Jun-19 19:36:44

Perhaps she could also make an apology to the Palestinian people for the conditions they are forced to live under and the inability of the UN to protect them.

Anniebach Sat 29-Jun-19 17:23:52

So pleased Yvette Cooper has made a public apology to the
Jewish communities . She will be on Momentum’s hit list though .

trisher Sat 29-Jun-19 16:07:18

The local party works to help an MP be elected, if the party members feel they cannot do that de-selection seems the only solution.

Anniebach Sat 29-Jun-19 13:34:09

Yes Labour did accept far left, left centre of left.

Now MP’s who disagree with the far left are up for deselection.

Grany Sat 29-Jun-19 12:52:40

Well Said trisher Sat 29-Jun-19 11:25:48

trisher Sat 29-Jun-19 11:25:48

That's because the Labour party as it was was a broad church which embraced all those with left wing views, including Marxist and non-Marxist. Unfortunately those who think themselves centrist are now unable to accept others with left wing views, even though these views are the ones the party was built on.

Anniebach Fri 28-Jun-19 13:19:00

I was a party member for over fifty years and would never have accepted being called a Marxist

Grany Fri 28-Jun-19 12:46:15

Correct a wrongly spelled word.
We Labour supporters don't get upset about being called Marxist etc. It's the MSM who uses these names as though they were a bad thing to smear a Corbyn Labour Party with it that's the problem ok

Grany Fri 28-Jun-19 12:44:20

POGS

Who says I deny being Marist Communist Socialist leftist Trotsky (hard left, what ever that is) call it what you will I am and proud to be a member of the Labour Party I don't know what all the fuss about this is that you are making. I don't deny my choice of political party. I read a socialist newspaper supporting the Labour Party.

We Labour supporters don't get upset about being called Marxist etc. It's the MSM who uses these names as though they were a bed thing to smear a Corbyn Labour Party with it that's the problem ok

POGS Fri 28-Jun-19 12:14:41

trisher

No.

No more than antisemitism or Islamophobia will suddenly disappear all be it politically or culturally.

However when Labour MP's and Councillors speak out / have spoken out about the problem since Corbyn became Leader then there will be 2 camps, those who will continue to deny ANY problem and see it as propaganda and those who listen , watch and learn.

Anniebach Fri 28-Jun-19 11:51:13

It is there, fact

trisher Fri 28-Jun-19 11:45:35

Ah so once Corbyn is removed as head all the anti-semitism will magically disappear? Now that is cloud cuckoo land. If it disappears so quickly perhaps it was never there.

POGS Fri 28-Jun-19 11:42:28

Grany

' It's funny till 2015 when Jeremy Corbyn became leader you would never hear about anti semitism. Now in the MSM and BBC that's all you hear. Don't you think that's funny? '

We have also been discussing on GN antisemitism issues within Labour since 2015 and the connection with Corbyn becoming Leader and certainly those who sat/sit on his top tier of advisers. There certainly was a common denominator as to when this started ,

It also is fact the MSM and BBC are reporting factual evidence from within the Labour Party , from Labour MP's and Labour Councillors who have been reporting the intimidation , abusive social media content such as threatening death, rape etc. So as for your comment " Don't you think that's funny? ' my response is NO, it's not funny either ha ha or ho ho. It is not a fabricated / propaganda exercise against Labour it is coming from those within Labour who have had enough.
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' In fact since Jeremy Corbyn became leader there has been less antisemitism. '

Well that certainly is a stock response by those who are in denial .
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' Marxist" is now being thrown around as an insult against Jeremy Corbyn by Tory MPs and the right-wing press. '

It's not just the right wing press it is common knowledge where Corbyn/McDonnell et al stand politically. What are they supposed to be called , Conservatives?

If McDonnell says ' I am a Marxist ' why is reporting that fact incorrect ? If McDonnell takes ' The Little Red Book ' into Parliament I think his credentials are quite clear.

You recently advocated on GN posters read a Marxist/Communist newspaper was it The Morning Star? Corbyn is known to have /had a strong connection to the Morning Star so what is the problem with making the connection between Corbyn and Marxism/Communism?

I rightly or wrongly presume through your posts communism is where you sit politically and if that is the case then what is it , why is it those who are Marxist or Communist cannot simply say loudly and proudly that is their politics, Corbyn and McDonnell make it perfectly clear they are.

I don't understand why there is some sort of denial Corbyn and his top team are Marxist , you only have to look at, know their history to understand that . To try and deny their Marxist /Communist/Trotsky call it what you will political credentials is tantamount to being embarrassed to acknowledge that is their political stance , WHY?

I genuinely do not understand how those who are Corbyn supporters do not accept their political persuasion, which is so obvious, and get upset when the connection between Corbyn/McDonnell and Marxism/Communism/Trotskyism is made.