Labour anti-semitism

Thank you for clarifying, Annie.

I wonder why POGS couldn't have said that herself.

Maizie you will find them in Hansard, a speech by Ruth
Smeeth when anti semetism was being discussed in the house, POG. Didn’t garner them . You will find the whole speech earlier in this thread posted by POGS

Which quotes POGS?

These:

Hang yourself you vile treacherous Zionist Tory filth. You are a cancer of humanity.”

“Ruth Smeeth is a Zionist—she has no shame—and trades on the murder of Jews by Hitler—whom the Zionists betrayed.”

“Ruth Smeeth must surely be travelling 1st class to Tel Aviv with all that slush. After all, she’s complicit in trying to bring Corbyn down.”

“First job for Jeremy Corbyn tomorrow—expel the Zionist BICOM smear hag bitch Ruth Smeeth from the Party.”

“This Ruth Smeeth bitch is Britainophobic, we need to cleanse our nation of these types.”

“#JC4PM Deselect Ruth Smeeth ASAP. Poke the pig—get all Zionist child killer scum out of Labour.”

“You are a spy! You are evil, satanic! Leave! #Labour #Corbyn.”

“Ruth you are a Zionist plant, I’m ashamed you are in Labour. Better suited to the murderous Knesset! #I Support Ken.”

“Your fellow traitor Tony Blair abolished hanging for treason. Your kind need to leave before we bring it back #Smeeth Is Filth.”

Where have you garnered all these from?

I know that you don't 'do' twitter but the use of the hashtag # indicates that at least some of them are tweets. This implies that you have copied the collection from somewhere. We would like to know your source.

We (I think I can speak for GGMK2 and trisher ) are not denying that they exist, we just don't think that they prove in any way that Labour is institutionally racist; unless, of course, you can prove that they are representative of the views of all members of the LP.

Which you haven't. You've just posted comments which are typical of the sick minds that can be found in any section of the population. As I pointed out earlier with my link to the DM comments on Meghan Markle.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 09-Jun-19 10:19:32
Point proven?
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What point has been proven?

trisher

" I see POGS no further clarification on context. Easier to focus on something else."
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I see the cabal has united .

Clarification on what context?

What am I focussing on to make it easier?

Point proven?

Maizied

"Still waiting for POGS to tell us more about the tweets she posted. Like, some context, perhaps? though I know, to my cost, that she doesn't 'do' context"
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I am so sorry I went out for the evening without your b----y permission.

Which ' tweets' have I posted? I do not post ' tweets' as Cameron once said ' Too many tweets make a twat '.

What post/posts have I made where you would like some ' context '.

That YouTube link mirrors so many posts on this thread it is uncanny

Grany that's brilliant-so funny and true. Thanks.
I see POGS no further clarification on context. Easier to focus on something else.
This discussion is getting ridiculous. No one has proved anything except there is anti-semitism, some people who are anti-semitic may or may not be members of the Labour Party. Just as there are anti-semites in every area, in every community, every where. But it remains only the Labour party that is being investigated leaving one assumes the rest of the anti-semites to do as they wish. It is very worrying. Like protesting the white paint your decorator is using isn't white enough and ignoring his apprentice who has already painted one wall grey.

MaizieD Sat 08-Jun-19 18:11:02
POGS.

I echo GGMK3's last paragraph at 17.04. Please put your quotes in context.
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Which quotes?

GGMK3

Do you know POGS, I haven't seen that once on here. On this thread, I have got just the opposite impression. So we, thanks to the rule-makers of GN, are now allowed to criticise the behaviour of the Israeli government in their actions towards Palestine. I shall bank that for another day I think.

Ioa don't think your quotes are from anyone on here, are they? In fact, do we know who exactly made them? Were they members of any political party? Where is this evidence? Rather than an "outside body", I would be more interested in what the police have done about it. Have we got a statement?
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If you haven't seen it then that is your problem it has been said on GN for years.

Your sarcasm re ' I shall bank that for another day ' , I hope you do but I doubt it.

As for :-

" Ioa don't think your quotes are from anyone on here, are they? In fact, do we know who exactly made them? Were they members of any political party? Where is this evidence? Rather than an "outside body", I would be more interested in what the police have done about it. Have we got a statement?"

Which quotes?

GGMK3

" Well POGS I couldn't see it, you seem to have seen the wrong pattern and Beckett was equally led astray. "
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Eh?

Couldn't see what ?
Led astray where?

DMReporter is neither a reporter nor does he work for the Daily Mail.

No, he doesn't, that's someone's twitter handle. What has that got to do with it? The screenshots he posted were from the Mail Online.

I thought this thread was about anti-semitism not The Duchess of Sussex?

Try reading my post, GG13. I thought I'd set out my reason for posting that thread quite clearly enough.

Still waiting for POGS to tell us more about the tweets she posted. Like, some context, perhaps? though I know, to my cost, that she doesn't 'do' context

Oh, this Rachael Swindon??

Speaks for itself.....https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/tom-watson/news/103416/tom-watson-accuses-labour-mp-spreading

I thought this thread was about anti-semitism not The Duchess of Sussex?

DMReporter is neither a reporter nor does he work for the Daily Mail.

Oh, Maizie.

maizie good grief. Extraordinary.

GracesGranMK3 Ha Ha yes I think I do I know a few too.

POGS.

I echo GGMK3's last paragraph at 17.04. Please put your quotes in context.

They remind me of a thread I saw on twitter this morning. It was about a completely different subject, Meghan Markle. A series of excerpts from Mail Online articles with a selection of the comments on the articles. The comments were exactly similar in tone to the ones you have quoted. Products of some very sick minds, IMO.

Of course, sick minds aren't confined to one particular group and if some members of a group do make such vile comments they are not indicative of the thoughts of the group as a whole; they are indicative of the fact that some individuals have sick minds.

(Here's the twitter thread: twitter.com/DMReporter/status/1091305722242056193

Grany Sat 08-Jun-19 17:53:14

Brilliant. I know who they modelled it on (and I bet you know who I'm thinking of).

Ha Ha Admit it, you know someone just like this.

I believe this genius is
@SirStevoTimothy

twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/1137377693736087553?s=20

There has been a stock response to your repeated question and the answer that has been given copious amount of times is YES by many posters.

Do you know POGS, I haven't seen that once on here. On this thread, I have got just the opposite impression. So we, thanks to the rule-makers of GN, are now allowed to criticise the behaviour of the Israeli government in their actions towards Palestine. I shall bank that for another day I think.

I don't think your quotes are from anyone on here, are they? In fact, do we know who exactly made them? Were they members of any political party? Where is this evidence? Rather than an "outside body", I would be more interested in what the police have done about it. Have we got a statement?

Well POGS I couldn't see it, you seem to have seen the wrong pattern and Beckett was equally led astray. However, it is easy when we are actually told. What I don't understand, Bridgeit, is all the MI5 stuff.

It seems we all thought of something extralegal either to the country or internationally but it was little old GNHQ. They actually seem quite happy to let this run - perhaps equally confused. I, personally, don't think they will lay down the sort of rules you expect Bridgeit. I would be censorship which doesn't seem to be what GN is about.

trueblue22 Sat 08-Jun-19 12:48:46
trisher If it were I most likely would leave that country and say criticise from the outside.

It is an option of course but mightn't it seem a little cowardly not to stand up against things you think are wrong in your own country?

I know sometimes that isn't possible and people like the Free French, Free Norweign, the Polish Armed Forces and others all fought from outside their countries when they were overrun but don't you stay and fight until that point?