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What the advisors told Boris

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trisher Wed 12-Jun-19 11:05:07

He's been hidden away for the last week or so. What do you suppose they have been telling him not to do to make sure he doesn't put his foot in it.
"Don't mention letterboxes?"

trisher Thu 13-Jun-19 11:17:09

Wish there was a Like button. Thanks Labaik unbelievable isn't it!

Labaik Thu 13-Jun-19 11:06:27

By Boris Johnson
12:01AM BST 21 Jun 2007

It's the arrogance. It's the contempt. That's what gets me. It's Gordon Brown's apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It's at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.
Everybody seems to have forgotten that the last general election was only two years ago, in 2005. A man called Tony Blair presented himself for re-election, and his face was to be seen - even if less prominently than in the past - on manifestos, leaflets, television screens and billboards. We rather gathered from the Labour prospectus that said Blair was going to be Prime Minister. Indeed, Tony sought a new mandate from the British electorate with the explicit promise that he would serve a full term.
The British public sucked its teeth, squinted at him closely, sighed and, with extreme reluctance, decided to elect him Prime Minister for another five years. Let me repeat that. They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM...I posted this on another thread; I'm assuming it isn't fake news. If it isn't, how two faced [but not surprising...]

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 09:53:28

grannyactivist, I admire you so much and can I ask in all seriousness how you ward off despair? I think you a Christian ?
If I am wrong excuse me. How do you keep going and keep cheerful?

Caledonai14 Thu 13-Jun-19 08:46:46

Yes Dinahmo. More like the Donald by the minute, I'd say. Lord help us all.

Jane10 Thu 13-Jun-19 07:27:46

A young person I know was once an (involuntary) intern with a Tory MP. He attended meetings where great concern was expressed re Boris and what he could do next. I wonder if there is still the same level of concern about him by these back room boys?
Whoever gets the job, it will be a short term one. A career politician would be sitting quietly waiting for the front runners to commit the political suicide that is Brexit. No way out or in!

crystaltipps Thu 13-Jun-19 05:39:47

Basically it’s about trying to save the Tory party and to hell with the good of the country. Still we’ll get a chance to elect him won’t we, unlike the undemocratic EU ? oh, no we won’t.

grannyactivist Thu 13-Jun-19 00:37:51

He has been described, rightly in my view, as a snake oil salesman. He has the morals of an alley cat, he proved himself to be a serial liar long before the Brexit bus, has referred to black people as "picaninnies" and as Foreign Secretary brought about great embarrassment to this country and harm to at least one of its citizens.

And yet.......he seems very likely to become our next Prime Minister! I despair!

Dinahmo Thu 13-Jun-19 00:20:08

He's getting more and more like the Donald isn't he. According to political pundits today, many of the MPs supporting him, despite not thinking that he would be a good PM, are doing so because they think he would be a strong leader. So, typical Tory MPs, thinking about themselves first.

M0nica Wed 12-Jun-19 16:54:06

That is what worries me, too

Davidhs Wed 12-Jun-19 16:51:22

If Boris reaches the final 2 candidates the election is extended to party members, who quite likely have an entirely different set of priorities and may well choose a safer pair of hands.

M0nica Wed 12-Jun-19 16:37:47

i agree*David*. The man is a buffoon, who acts first and then occasionally thinks. It is obvious he is being held on a very tight rein and how any MP can vote for him other than out of naked self-interest defeats me.

Davidhs Wed 12-Jun-19 16:34:34

Boris is a loose cannon no doubt, but to get the top job he will probably restrain his buffoonery until he gets it, but that won’t last long .

M0nica Wed 12-Jun-19 15:17:07

suzie, I think there is an arrogance in BJ that thinks that he doesn't need to be briefed because he can wing it because he is so clever.

The problem is, he is exceptionally clever, but he is not intelligent and seems to lack any commonsense or sense that anyone else in the world matters beyond himself.

BlueBelle Wed 12-Jun-19 15:13:23

He puts his mouth into motion before his brain and yes it’s cost that young lady in the Middle East a chunk more sentence How his ‘ little indiscretions’ have not got him sacked or called out more I ll never understand a slippery monster if ever there was one
If he gets in then we really have got Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum not sure which is which though

suziewoozie Wed 12-Jun-19 15:00:22

Sorry if I wasn’t clear MOnica, I did not mean to imply that others didn’t brief him well but that he didn’t bother to make sure he knew his brief. I suppose your point is a bit different ie he doesn’t even see why he should be briefed so doesn’t listen or read what is said or written for him

M0nica Wed 12-Jun-19 14:54:46

He is rarely well briefed because he doesn't listen to what people say or read properly what he is given.

I can remember at work some years ago, my company had a very difficult incident when a representative in a foreign country said utterly the wrong thing and nearly caused an international incident. During the inevitable post mortem the question arose as to whether he had been properly briefed. One manager spoke up saying if you had briefed the person involved 24/7 for a fortnight the result would have been the same because he wouldn't have listen and if he did, ignored what was said.

Boris is no different

suziewoozie Wed 12-Jun-19 14:47:37

It is often said about him that he is rarely well briefed - that could explain the ‘gaffes’ if it is true

MawBroonsback Wed 12-Jun-19 14:43:31

I can’t work out whether his gaffes are bungling or calculated
Either way, it makes him a man I cannot trust.

M0nica Wed 12-Jun-19 14:37:38

Look what damage his bungling comments did to the cause of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, when he was Foreign Secretary. That anyone could even begin to think he would make a good Prime Minister must have been comparing him with Jeremy Corbyn - even then I am not sure their decision was the right one.

Anniebach Wed 12-Jun-19 13:00:37

I doubt he would listen to any advice

Nandalot Wed 12-Jun-19 12:53:54

It really doesn’t say much about his calibre as a candidate if he has to be kept out of the limelight for fear of putting his foot in it. Surely we need a safe pair of hands to be PM.?

trisher Wed 12-Jun-19 12:15:52

If they could confine him to comedy shows MiniMoon it might be OK. But he will keep pretending he's a politician!

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jun-19 11:59:29

suzie ?

suziewoozie Wed 12-Jun-19 11:55:10

I’ve just listened to his launch live - I think they should have kept him locked up.

MiniMoon Wed 12-Jun-19 11:52:30

Oh, don't send Boris away, he's fun. Goodness only knows what sort of a PM he'd make thought, eek!