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Fat people can only exercise naked !

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Purplepoppies Fri 14-Jun-19 10:04:11

I agree this is horrible fat shaming. Not acceptable. Of course women, and men, of all shapes and sizes should have access to sports wear and the gym to improve your fitness. It makes sense.
But on GN and MN there is an awful lot of body shaming, be it about size, choice of body modification or clothing!!! I dislike it all tbh.

Gonegirl Fri 14-Jun-19 10:03:39

That model is no 16. grin More like a 20.

Can't see that it's obscene though. It covers as much of her up as the slimmer model next to her, and no doubt it's the same material.

polnan Fri 14-Jun-19 09:54:24

It is not just women, human beings are abusive to human beings... deep sighs from me!

Grammaretto Fri 14-Jun-19 07:35:37

I agree that obese people are discriminated against .
Ofcourse in an ideal world there should be clothes to fit everyone, and shoes and hats.
The mannequin pictured is hardly obese.
When I was a child I had a foster mother who was too fat for off the peg clothes so she made her own. She made my clothes too and my dolls' clothes.
She introduced my sister and I to the world of self sufficiency.

Esspee Fri 14-Jun-19 07:07:51

Sorry, that outfit is obscene and I'm a size 16.

PamelaJ1 Fri 14-Jun-19 06:59:38

Question 1- is it discrimination or judgemental?
I think that it’s generally perceived that, on the whole, people are born as themselves. They emerge from the womb into a culture, race or sexuality and, in most cases,
don’t deviate much.
So, no it’s not OK to be abusive but to have an opinion is inevitable.
Obese people are seen to have brought fat upon themselves so there is a difference on how they are judged.

Question 2- I’d like to say that I’ve never bought exercise clothing but I have got, some cheap cutoff leggings that I wear for tennis and exercise class along with a T-shirt.
I’m quite slim but wouldn’t be seen dead in that exercise gear. At my age the wobbly bits would be escaping through the gaps. “O
If larger people want to waste their money it’s their choice.

JackyB Thu 13-Jun-19 20:50:16

The mannequin in the picture is just a well-built size 16 or so.

"Heaving with fat" my foot.

Gonegirl Thu 13-Jun-19 20:10:42

Sensible to supply exercise clothing for fat women. What are they supposed to exercise in? confused

Gonegirl Thu 13-Jun-19 20:08:58

"or even 16 — a hefty weight"

Whaaat?

Daft cow.

NanaandGrampy Thu 13-Jun-19 19:14:28

This is the mannequin in question . Tanya Gold felt that a person the size of this mannequin would be pre diabetic and unable to run.

I can see where she thinks this is a marketing ploy and I am sure that vectored into their decision, after all they’re a business , it’s their job to sell and make money. But I still think that if clothes come in all sizes then why wouldn’t exercise clothes too ?

M0nica Thu 13-Jun-19 18:34:31

Actually it is quite possible to be overweight and healthy. DD has been overweight most of her life despite being extremely active and having a healthy diet. We think there may be a genetic element involved because in DH's family there seems to be one member like her every generation.

She is now in her late 40s swims 5 or 6 miles a week, will happily walk for miles and her blood pressure, blood sugar and cholesterol levels are all well below danger levels. It is only her weight that is the problem. When she had a serious accident the doctors looking after her acknowledged that her overall fitness and good health were a major contributor to her good recovery.

Loislovesstewie Thu 13-Jun-19 18:31:38

The problem is that too often people feel that they can only go to the gym if they are the right size and already fit. So those who could really do with taking up exercise start off at a disadvantage. And that's before we get to the whole thing of what to wear.

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 17:55:59

Isn't size 16 the average size in the UK? It's hardly a myth.

Riverwalk Thu 13-Jun-19 17:52:19

I can't read Tanya Gold's full article because it's behind The Telegraph's paywall but I do know she herself is rather large so I doubt she was being nasty or discriminatory.

I got the impression that she thinks Nike are peddling a myth that women can be the size of the mannequin and be healthy.

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 17:47:38

larger than what?

Septimia Thu 13-Jun-19 17:46:18

1. No it's not OK to be abusive about weight - whether v. high or v. low - any more then about the other things.

2. Yes, appropriate exercise clothing for larger people is sensible.

Larger people don't necessarily want to be large but losing weight can be hard. Anything, like suitable clothes, that can help is to be encouraged - and we should encourage people to try to be fitter, not denegrate them.

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:44:15

I'm happy to support women under 8st. I don't think my arms could bear a heavier weight.

NanaandGrampy Thu 13-Jun-19 17:08:11

Saw an article in the Telegraph the other day about this :-

www.businessinsider.com/nikes-plus-size-mannequin-is-a-brilliant-business-decision-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

What I found surprising ( or maybe not) was the comments from journalist Tanya Gold in regard to Nike now selling plus sized sports wear .

"The new Nike mannequin is not size 12, which is healthy, or even 16 — a hefty weight, yes, but not one to kill a woman. She is immense, gargantuan, vast. She heaves with fat," Gold wrote.

I'm not posting to get into the usual debate about whether fat people are fat through their own fault instead I'm asking 2 questions.

Firstly, is obesity the last bastion of discrimination. If its not ok to make derogatory comments about culture, colour, race or sexuality is it ok to be abusive about weight?

And secondly, if exercise is good for you , doesn't it make sense that larger people have access to the appropriate clothing to do their exercise in?

Do you think Nike are breaking ground here with their new range ( even if you overlook that its probably an excellent marketing strategy) and that it should be available ?

My other thought was when will women stop tearing other women down. Regardless of size should we , as women, not be supportive of each other ? Or is that based on weight too?

I'm really interested to hear other peoples thoughts on this.