Has Anyone Changed Their Mind?

I'm, a 'leave queen' forever. I could tell you a few tales about suspicions of how the 1975 referendum was rigged in favour of Remain, but no one would believe me, so I won't bother. I could list 100s of business which have ceased trading or been bought up because we have been in the EU.

Of course, Cameron's £9 million leaflet to every household in the country was not classed as fraudulent spending as it was conveniently outside the election expense period. An American President would never say, ' The UK was at the back of the queue for a trade deal', he would say, 'at the back of the line', so that speech was probably written at the request of Cameron too. No fraud there then!

Staying in the EU would not result in the status quo, far from it. It would require complete integration, the removal of the rebate, adopting the euro, accepting complete free movement, all decisions about everything made in Brussels. No thanks.

And any comment to my second point jura2?

Leave never meant having a deal. There was never anything said about that at the time of the referendum. Soft brexit was an invention by govt remainers.

You do realise they pick their audience, don't you?

Strangely enough, they have never done interviews in 6th Form Colleges or Universities- wonder why?

Strange though how many young people on tv are saying they’d vote Leave?

And one cannot assume that all the people who have died in the last 3 years voted Leave!

Remain may have ‘lost’ support too that way.

And they know it, and would not make the same mistake again.

Which is why Leavers do not want a second vote, as they know they would lose, significantly. Firstly because of demographics (old voters have died and young ones who we too young to vote are now old enough) - but mainly because they know the stakes, and will be there, big time ...

Grans on here bemoan the (fact?) that our young uns are about to be badly let down by Brexit.

Just a shame enough of them didn’t toddle down to the polling stations 3 years ago to cast their exceptionally important votes.

Please please those of you who are wanting to leave "Just because I am sick and tired of it" just think about the consequences. It's taking a long time because it's complicated and many MPs are torn between what their constituents may have voted for and what they can see would be a disaster for Great Britain if we go for no deal.
The thought of Boris blundering around, convinced he can charm the EU with his "personality" scares me to death!

I have kept out of the debate so far, but I agree with most people here: why can't they just get on with it?

Having lived in Germany for 40 years, I was not allowed to vote.

Despite petitioning and campaigning, 1 million UK citizens - those who would be most affected by the outcome - were not given a voice. With very few exceptions we would have voted remain, not only because it would make our lives easier, but because a United Europe makes sense to us, seen from this end.

Many of us, even the staunchest of patriots, rushed to get German nationality. We had to be fast-tracked through, so that we were granted nationality by 29 March (remember 29 March?)

(According to German law, you can only have a second passport if the other passport is from an EU country)

So now, many of the bureaucratic hurdles that would have been put up overnight (work permit? residence permit? No deal???????) are no longer a problem for me.

When I hear of people in the UK losing their jobs due to factories closing down and large companies moving to the Netherlands and Ireland in anticipation of the problems Brexit will cause, I wonder why nobody thought this thing through before jumping in at the deep end.

But I still worry that the original aim of the Union (peace in Europe) will now be jeopardised.

Are you saying that all this dreadful stuff has actually happened? Leavers have always called it fake news or "project fear", They love their slogans.

Business insider report

Brexit has so far cost us £66bn,

It has triggered a decline in the value of sterling,
Lower household spending power
Lower house prices
Weaker exports

The U.K. is now tottering on the edge of recession with 0% growth reported.

Foreign investment has dried up.

According to HSBC the U.K. is doing worse than all other large economies overall.

I didn’t vote for this.

Over to you leavers I assume you’ve got the answers.

If Jeremy Corbyn and Co are desperate to create a socialist paradise in this country, why on earth would they want to stay in the EU? Surely they'll constantly run up against EU rules and regulations that will prevent the very reforms they wish to put into operation, particularly privatisation bearing in mind the involvement of European Companies in just about every sector of the economy?! Much better for them, I would have thought, to be firmly outside the EU!!

I voted Remain, and still would, *Jura”, but I don’t see myself as “entrenched, and will never change, do or die”. Perhaps that wasn’t the way you meant it to come across? I agree with the rest of your comments.

A few things seem quite clear now

- most older Leavers have not changed their mind, have become entrenched and will never change, do or die...many have in fact (died)

- young people now realise the importance of voting, and 100s of 1000s who could not vote then, would be able to now- and would make sure they do

- many who believed all the lies, that we would hold all the cards, it would be the easiest thing to do, we would keep the customs' union and trade deals, lots of money would go to NHS, and on, and on, and on .... now realise they were sold a very sick pup - and have changed their mind

- but mainly, we are now clearly a Remain nation - and this is the reason why they do not want a second vote.

- ERG always wanted No Deal - to avoid new rules about tax evasion, and to be able to sell the NHS and other essential services to Trump's USA, etc. And to ensure we get preferential treatment from USA, China, Russia, etc - in exchange for weakening the EU.

Quite simple, really.

Remainer like the other 62% of Scots who voted to remain.I'm Scots and European.The UK had a good deal with the EU ,its the media who have given it a bad press I spoke to a man in apub in the North of England who said " we want to leave to see how things are without the EU ,we can always rejoin if we dont like it" ..WHAT planet is he on? I did try to explain its not like GE ...if you're out ..you're out!

Remainer. Would vote the same way again

I really don't know why politicians keep talking about the bullying tactics of the EU ( and many on here too); the EU have laid the deal out, we have failed to pass it through Parliament, so how is this now the fault of the EU? I notice too that a lot of the old stuff we used to hear three years ago has started; the 'they need us as much as we need them' followed by a sprinkling of unicorn dust and then 'of course we can trade with the EU after Brexit', talk about Groundhog day.....sigh...

I voted to leave and I would absolutely do so again.
I'm fed up with remainers who act as if us leavers have committed a crime or are mentally deficient.
Talk about bad losers!
I must admit though that I am fed up with the whole thing and wish David Cameron had never called the referendum.

I was talking to a group of friends yesterday and a number of those who voted remain said they have changed their minds and now want to leave. They gave various reasons, fed up with how long it is taking and now just want to get it over and done with, also what some consider the bullying tactics of the EU, so I am not surprised at the YouGov result

A YouGov survey conducted for The Times have found that 57% of people would now vote leave (an increase from the 52% who voted leave in the referendum).

a bit sick of it all that is very restrained!
I think we're all very sick of it all.

...and actually I'm not soley thinking of my AC GC and GGC. I'm thinking of me too.
I count, for as long as I live and breathe.

No, but I'm a bit sick of it all.
Out, then the mess can be sorted and we can forget the B word.
As it is, IMV, it's posturing, arrogant argumentative, men (mainly) who have never grown up.
All words and no actions.
Gawd knows how their wives/ husbands/partners put up with them.

This, indeed, thanks.

We will be ruled by WTO, Trump and any country we will have to beg for deals- be it Russia, China, etc. And will have to adopt their rules and very poor safety, welfare, environmental, etc, standards. Surely everyone can see that now?

I am a convinced remainder and will continue to be so.
I suggest those who think Cameron received nothing from Brussels when he went to ask for concessions should actually google it and you will see what he did gain. I think it was nine things he asked for and he had concessions on each of them - no joining the Euro - no joining any army should there be one - not that a European army is on the cards - it is just an agreement to work together and pool their individual skills if it should become necessary. Just look it up!
The import and export taxes are the things which are likely to scupper the U.K. - if we give any country within the WTO zero tariffs as is proposed then these same tariffs have to be given to every country.
The countries in the WTO all need to agree to the U.K. joining and so far that does not look as if it is a cut and dried decision with all agreeing - several have indicated they are unwilling to agree.
Only time will tell if this has been a wise decision or the worst one the U.K. has ever made - I only hope for the sake of our children and grandchildren it is the former - unfortunately for me my gut instinct says it is not.