Tommy Robinson

give your head a wobble ?? never heard that before, but very apt.

What is hilarious about the spoof Kate Adie tweet is the well known racists who’ve immediately taken it as fact and joined in approving ‘her’ tweet. Basically how it works is that some people suspend all belief and judgement when they read something on social media that they desperately want to be true.

GrsnnyGravy - give your head a wobble. How could you believe for a nanosecond that the wonderful Kate Adie would ever tweet anything like that? It’s a spoof account - what is it about social media that people so often swallow what it says without checking when what it says goes against anything a minutes thought would demonstrate to be false.

Kate Ady posted on twitter, that she and other reporters had done the same as TR. I will try to find a link.

I am not endorsing TRs actions, I find the whole EDL movement appeals to what I would probably explain as those folks who are constantly looking for a "Johnny Foreigner" or those which are "different to them" to blame for all problems in the UK at the moment.

It does seem that Johno makes statements and then when asked for supporting evidence ignores that request and just makes ever more rubbish remarks.

I doubt Johno will be back with this non-existent information.,

johno - please send a link to the BBC commentator with a verifiable date stamp. Thank you.

I’m interested that you say they are “committing the same offence” as at last you are acknowledging that “TR” committed and offence.

Re your (shouting) post above, just because some of us are “pro” upholding the law (regarding reporting), does not mean that we don’t deplore and condemn weak, biased policing, cover-ups and victim-shaming. These are not mutually exclusive.

Johno Can you please name this petition and the reporter (I have tried google but the only petition calling for a BBC reporter to be sacked is against Chris Packham).

There is a petition gaining massive support, seeking to have the BBC (reporter) charged for doing exactly what TR is now facing a prison term. There is absolute clear video evidence of the BBC reporter committing the same offence. I am not expecting the Tommy haters to show honesty and integrity by recognising the aforesaid. That is the difference. I will show the truth even if I was in support of said person/people. Its like saying: "What! Rolfe Harris? Never, he is a nice man"!!

Hysteria rules by the looks of the latest offerings. You actually want the thread removing? I repeat my earlier point that I haven’t read any racist outpourings on this thread. It’s the typical reaction of a certain type who will not be challenged. The fact that some of us won’t be blindly led by the media and think for ourselves has obviously sent a certain faction into meltdown. I shall withdraw now as there is nothing new or, in the least, enlightening being brought to the topic and I’m moving house today (cue more schoolgirl abuse - “North Pole hopefully” blah blah). Have a good day ladies

suzie yes I think you have a point, but I wouldn’t hold your breath as far as HQ are concerned. They have guidelines they follow for legal purposes, but that is all. GN is for profit and their moderators are employees who have guidelines to follow but will not be allowed to go outside of that.

You have to see it as a profit making business and that’s all.

Undoubtedly if GN or MN were badly infiltrated by extremists I guess they would do something as it isn’t a good look. But other than that I doubt it very much.

I’ve got mixed feelings about taking threads like this down - that way the racists win - it stops us expressing our disgust at people like Tommy Robinson and if we can’t safely discuss an important issue like racism, that’s pretty disgraceful isn’t it?

WW3 Maw et ak I wouldn’t ever attempt to enter into a discussion with people like this. Firstly they lack the capacity to debate, I’ve come across the types in RL so I know this to be true. They haven’t an original thought in their heads and can only regurgitate what they have been fed.

Secondly I simply don’t want to sully myself interacting with such low life.

Harsh? Vulgar? Yes, but there are times when we too jus have to ‘say it as it is’ to throw their words back at them.

Over and out. I have better things to do,

I think GN should also ask itself about the regular criticism of Meghan Markle especially as one of the latest threads has a post telling a lie about her which no one apart from me seems to think matters. I’ll report this post too and ask GN to please think about the extent to which free speech and racism collide on GN with the former being an excuse for the latter.

Perhaps in order to try to prevent ourselves getting mired in this awful hatred, we could have some sort of stock phrase. Like

“ we on GN abhor racism, homophobia and extremism. We do not react or take part in such discussion” or something along those lines.

Like “no comment” you see in police series.

I never expected my original post to be like lighting the blue touch paper and have been disgusted by some of the resulting pro TR posts. If that is the “community” on GN it’s not my community. If the whole thread needs to go to lance this toxic boil, so be it.
TG for those who speak sense - you know who you are.

anja ? at least your passion and hatred of the far right might achieve taking this thread down, but be warned they will be back.?

I have some sympathy with the ‘starve the beast’ approach but the problem is that these racists will see our silence as a victory or agreement. Also I worry how it looks to anyone reading threads with unchallenged racist comments - silence can be seen as silent agreement.

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OK my message will doubtless be deleted by GN but I’m going to report it myself as it’s obvious thar this thread has been targeted, deliberately invaded by disgusting, ignorant, racist little trolls trying to spread their pathetic message of hatred.

Have you not got the message yet Yobs? Fuck off we don’t want you on here.

From what I’ve seen on TV and read on this thread you are hardly the epitome of white superiority, far from it. Yuk!

You know we periodically get these people on GN who seem to speak for the far right. They largely stay just the right side of the line in order to not get banned, but it is usually crystal clear what their message is, and why they provoke such a big reaction from the regular long term posters.

One or two things will happen. Eventually they will go away, and these posts will cease. Or, and particularly if an election is called their posts will increase in intensity.

We could react in one or two ways.

We could refuse to feed the beast that is the far right, and eventually it will die of starvation, and disappear, or we can try to counteract the racism, homophobia and hate with our arguments. But do we truly think that will work?

I’d rather starve the beast.

No suziewoozie I won’t go away. I don’t support Tommy Robinson. I support reasoned debate. Mudslinging again you see. Beyond laughable.

Tickingbird - anyone who supports Tommy Robinson is a racist. That’s it really. Go away.

I don’t think these people who have suddenly crawled out of the woodwork are TR ‘apologists’...it seems much more organised than that.

Did these infiltraters imagine that they would find support and fellow nazis among the right wing grandmothers on this site? Perish the thought!

I suggest all of you crawl back into your little racist slime pits.