I despise Yaxley Lennon

I am all for " calling out" wrong doing, especially where abuse is concerned. I have not failed to see that a number of high profile cases have involved members of BME communities.

Calling out/drawing attention to/fighting for the vulnerable is admirable.

Using abuse victims to stir up anti Muslim feeling and potentially ruin a court case is not admirable.

TR supporters. They are all over twitter

Labaik
Were these protesters specifically defining themselves as TR followers or were they Brexit voters? (Your SODEM post)

labaik just seen it on twitter. What is happening is truly terrifying. They are attacking television crews as well.

If anyone wants to know they are trying to raise money to replace everything that was smashed.

No I'm saying I agree with some of his views.

Re Boris and his letter box comment well he has a point.

TR's followers have destroyed all of SODEM's flags etc. at Westminster [SODEM and Steve being the most gentle natured of protesters]. Have attacked the police also I believe. What is happening to this country? It truly terrifies me....

I think people are losing sight of the fact that he has been jailed for contempt of court - not for his political views. It doesn't matter who or why he filmed the defendants - in doing so he broke the law.

So are you saying you agree with his racism then Firecracker? Accessing a whole race or faith on the basis of the behaviour of some of that race or faith would certainly be a prejudice that, depending on what was suggested, and I believe TR's suggestions are radical, could be breaking the law - as could repeating them.

He is a criminal (actually not just me saying). He is very good at cultivating an image of victim-hood and martyrdom which is very appealing to the far-right. Tommy Robinson can act as he does because of a social climate of fear more acceptability create by the likes of Boris Johnson and his letterbox comment. That and the tabloid newspaper's promotion of anti-immigration stories my make this sort of comment seem more acceptable but no laws have changed.

Personally, I will stand up for our "British" values that tell me the person next to me, however they define themselves, is always equal to me.

GG3
We don't need him and his moronic followers to list the allegations against Islam
A response to an earlier post.

GillT57
Where do you get that idea from. Just because I challenge people?
I had a big fall out with my son (now deceased) who wanted to go to a TR march.. I lived in a muslim country for many years and understand the true faith. I recognise the distortions of the faith. I know the majority are probably better people than many indigenous people, however in knowing this I know that for the sake of the quiet majority, who cannot speak out for cultural and community reasons, some malpractice has to be called out and addressed. TR (YL) has clumsily attempted to do this, his actions are often stupid and ill thought. But are they worse than that?
If so I am happy to be enlightened, not with the fact that he has been to jail for fraud, for using a false passport or football violence. I want to know the real reason he is regarded as vile.

Actually joelsnan if you take the time to read the posts you will see that most people have read and researched this, and some have had the misfortune to deal professionally with victims of rape( not calling it child abuse, in law it is rape). The irritation and anger is directed at those who have supported this man and swallowed the swill and propaganda spouted by his supporters, by some areas of the press, by people like Katy Hopkins. It is generally acknowledged that the Police and social services performed badly,very badly in many cases,but thr idiotic behaviour of TR would have made it even worse for the victims had the defence won their appeals. Like Farage, this right wing moron is out for himself and nobody else. We are living in frightening times

GracesGran are you for real what a silly post how ridiculous.

Where is there hate speech on this thread Joelsnan? I am prepared to report it if you point it out as I am quite sure it is outside GN rules. On the other hand, if you cannot or do not point to the post containing this, I will report you for accusing posters of such heinous things without being able to show any example.

In that case joelsnan you aren’t making yourself clear.

I'm not a supporter of Tommy Robinson but I agree with a lot of his views re Islam. I agree with Joelnan.

I don’t give a ‘Tinkers Toss’ about YL and his friends, However what prompted me to contribute to this thread is the absolute double standards being expressed on these threads. An apparent purveyor of hate speech is condemned by hate speech, most not taking time to research and understand, most attaching a generalist racist mantle without recognising the specifics. Most who are quick to attach derogatory terms to anyone who may challenge their ‘rightness’ ‘Must be far right’, ‘must be Brexiteers’, ‘must be racist’ etc. etc. Who is talking hate?

joelsnan you do come across as seeing TR as some kind of folk hero. We don't need him and his moronic followers to list the allegations against Islam, we already have The Daily Mail and the Daily Express to do that. But you will know that because it looks as if that is where you get your political and social information from.

Yardley-Lennon is going to prison because broke the law and is therefore a criminal. I worry that people with the ignorance of the law that some show on here will find themselves on the wrong side of it with the attitudes they profess.

Lessismore
JN, your comments are beyond the pale, but I guess at least it's out there for everybody to see.

Please elaborate on your above comment, I am very interested to understand what you consider to be beyond the pale. It is all very well making rash statements, now please validate.

Whiewavemark2
joelsnan you speak of him as if he is a rational law abiding individual without a violent bone in his body

Where have I stated that?
I have acknowledged on the other thread he has a violent streak. But my point is has any direct violence been attributed to his Islamophobia? I think most is football related. I am happy to be corrected.

But Corbyn is horrible and a Marxist.

( thought I'd get in first)

gill57 collective madness. But one that they genuinely believe. There will be books and books written about this and keep psychologists busy for years.

It is too exhausting to try and explain yet again what crimes TR committed firecracker and quizqueen and you would likely dismiss the truth anyway. The more I read of people who are stupid enough to support this nasty violent criminal,the more I realise why Brexit is happening. This country has lost its wits and fallen under the spell of collective madness where TR and Farage are 'good blokes' where Johnson, 'tells it like it is' where Widdecombe is admired for being a shrieking intolerant harridan where moronic people discuss, without knowing how the diplomatic service even works, the possibility of Farage as US ambassador. It is like living through some nightmare where facts are dismissed as fake, where previously expected standards of behaviour are over ridden just as long as the loud minority get what their masters have told them they want

Yes, he's a violent man, but so were many of those that he rallied against ?

bringing to the attention of the public

The public knew, please do not try to make us think he helped in any way.

JN, your comments are beyond the pale, but I guess at least it's out there for everybody to see.