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Trump, using the language of the playground again.

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phoenix Tue 09-Jul-19 18:42:36

Calling one who dares to criticise him (albeit in a leaked document/telegram) "wacky" and "a very stupid guy"

Funny that he never seemed to think that of Kim Dannoch until Dannochs opinions of Trump came to light. hmm

Although it seems to be the psychiatric term of the day, Trump does seem to be exhibiting the traits of a Narcissist.

lemongrove Tue 16-Jul-19 09:14:26

In a way Fennel yes, I think so, because The USA is a vast country made up of States which are very different to each other as well as far apart geographically.Generally tv tends to portray only NY or California or Texas, but when you think of the wide ranging States and people within there are bound to be huge differences.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Jul-19 09:09:25

Trump has apparently successfully got people talking about his racism, rather than him being implicated in rape alongside his friend Epstein.

Prince Andrew is being implicated.

Fennel Tue 16-Jul-19 09:03:50

Another worrying thing is that he still has a lot of support in the USA. Wild West mentality?

Iam64 Tue 16-Jul-19 08:59:04

MOnica, I agree with your post but, I'd add he isn't making the USA a laughing stock, he's setting it up for isolation and attack.
If his closest allies, ourselves and the rest of Europe find him offensive, untrustworthy, racist, misogynist and in truth, stupid and dangerous, heaven help the US in any serious negotiations towards world peace. Who believes a word he says>. Who could trust him on any level?

M0nica Tue 16-Jul-19 08:43:13

What makes me laugh is the way Trump thinks he is making America great again. He isn't, he is making it a laughing stock.

The reason he got so up tight by what Sir Kim Darroch said in those leaked emails, is that every embassy in Washington DC is sending home reports saying exactly the same thing- and he probably knows it because the security services are intercepting them and reading them.

Everyone in the world (except, possibly the North Koreans) know that he is a nasty racist mysoginist bully of limited intellectual ability.

As Burns said (and Trump's mother was a Scot) O wad some Power the giftie gie us, to see oursels as ithers see us!

rosecarmel Tue 16-Jul-19 04:34:18

It's getting worse, beyond locker room talk, beyond potty mouth comments- All that remains is a thin veil between what he Tweets and what he means to say straight up but doesn't-

Even though some of his party members speak out against what he says, they support his policies, and if they support his policies they will support him as President -

rosecarmel Thu 11-Jul-19 09:37:10

Iam64 the system as I see it is closer to failure than flawed-

The increase is twofold - Its due to the rise in the number of crossings and the implementation of Trumps separation policy- But the practice of requiring children to appear in court alone for their deportation proceeding is not new- Its traumatic for those old enough to grasp the seriousness of their circumstance yet too frightened to express themselves- The toddlers of course have no idea- But no child is "marched" into court-

The situation at the border is a humanitarian crisis- But since it's also a situation to capitalize upon and generate votes it won't be over any time soon-

Greta Thu 11-Jul-19 09:33:13

MawBroonsback

I am constantly astounded by US citizens who applaud Trump “because he gets things done” (so did Stalin and under the Nazis the German trains ran on time)

I agree. I am also astounded by our own citizens who seem not to care how we leave the EU as long as we leave. Cries of ”just get out/just get on with it” are common. No doubt many believe BJ is now our Man because he will ”get things done”; never mind the cost.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Jul-19 08:59:58

We have voluntarily put ourselves in such an invidious and weakened position, it is stopping us behaving like a strong sovereign state, as we need the USA. It’s pathetic.

MawBroonsback Thu 11-Jul-19 08:34:54

Hear, hear Whitewaveetc !
I am constantly astounded by US citizens who applaud Trump “because he gets things done” (so did Stalin and under the Nazis the German trains ran on time)
To call Darroch “wacky” or “ a stupid guy” is not the language of diplomacy and if I may quote from Michael Deacon in today’s DT
The world’s oldest toddler has a tantrum over private – and by the way 100 per cent accurate – criticisms of his miserable regime, and what do we do? We let him push us around, like a seven-stone weakling in a Charles Atlas ad
Perhaps being a ‘vassal state’ is fine after all, as long as it’s Trump we’re paying vassalage to. Did you know incidentally, that when Boris Johnson was Mayor of London, he said Trump was ‘clearly out of his mind’, guilty of ‘stupefying ignorance’, and ‘unfit to hold the office of president’? Let’s hope Trump doesn’t find out, or he’ll make us pick another new prime minister, too

suziewoozie Thu 11-Jul-19 08:18:37

Trump is only two years in and a second term almost a given - God help us all.

Iam64 Thu 11-Jul-19 07:50:52

rosecarmel, you don't mention the huge increase in the separation of children from their parents at the border, the fact children of 3 are marched into Court where a Judge asks them if they understand the proceedings.
Under Trump some American's will benefit - Trump's victory had much to do with the fact the system is flawed. Hilary won the people's vote.

SueH49 Thu 11-Jul-19 07:48:28

Absent, exactly.

rosecarmel Thu 11-Jul-19 07:43:11

sooziewoozie, he isn't the most reprehensible- Consider the genocide and inhumane treatment of native Americans - And slavery- And the Viet Nam War-

Under Trump, some Americans will benefit- The same way some benefited under Obama- Trumps victory had much to do with the fact that many Democrats were fed up with Democrat nonsense and pomp-

And the fact that some can afford healthcare isn't enough- But it's being treated as if it is- That in itself is reprehensible-

absent Thu 11-Jul-19 06:22:05

SueH49 The USA has always had this idea of its phenomenal and unique exceptionalism and that its President is the leader of the free world. The first is simply false and the second applies only if the rest of the free world accepts it. Mostly, we don't.

suziewoozie Thu 11-Jul-19 03:58:26

Obamacare was much watered down because of the Republicans utter hatred of it. Despite this, there are now many less uninsured Americans and Trump hasn’t been able to dismantle as he wished because surprise surprise Republican representatives realised it would cost them votes. Goodness knows why you had to bring Obamacare into a thread discussing the most reprehensible POTUS in the history of the USA and yes I do know about Nixon.

rosecarmel Thu 11-Jul-19 01:43:31

Anyone who aims to protect a fetus but not all people isn't a leader but a zealot- He doesn't represent all Americans and has made it quite clear that he doesn't- Obama was the same in that regard- Some can now afford healthcare- Those that couldn't were fined for not buying it despite the fact they made too much to qualify for Medicaid- Total slap in the face-

SueH49 Thu 11-Jul-19 00:45:51

Now that Trump has had his State visit and no doubt it was the biggest and best State visit that has ever been he will believe that he can say anything about anyone he likes. Mind you he did in any case - remember Little Rocket Man?
How arrogant to say that he told TM how to sort out Brexit and she foolishly ignored him. He obviously believes he is the leader of the whole world and we should all do as he says.

gmarie Wed 10-Jul-19 23:30:10

Thank you, it's just SO embarrassing to have him representing us around the world.

Iam64 Wed 10-Jul-19 22:29:02

hello gmarie, please don’t feel you neeed to apologise. We are the Brexit Boris country, we need to apologise ?. Though your President is in a class all his own, thankfully

gmarie Wed 10-Jul-19 21:35:34

I'm American and starting to feel like I should reply on all of these posts to apologize for our narcissistic, cruel, adulterous, idiotic, clueless liar and imbecile of a president! sad

Anniebach Wed 10-Jul-19 21:00:22

Ghastly man, not a scrape of dignity, vulgar, crude, repulsive.

Iam64 Wed 10-Jul-19 20:54:17

He certainly does WWM2. What a dreadful individual he is. I see the diplomats on both sides of the Atlantic are united in their support of our ex Ambassador's skills, integrity and commitment to public service.
It feels too much to hope that Boris has in any way diminished his chances of becoming leader of his party and our PM. Still, it only confirms he's untrustworthy, unethical and self serving.

notnecessarilywiser Wed 10-Jul-19 08:17:26

Spot on, @Whitwavemark2 !

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Jul-19 08:04:34

Every time Trump opens his mouth, he confirms the UKs ambassador’s opinion.