Is this the face of fascism?

And what would those be, Ug?

Can you point me to its manifesto?

Its manifesto democratically agreed on by its members at its party conference, of course?

(Though I suppose if you have a membership of 1 person a democratically compiled manifesto is easy.. )

Nope. I agree with the aims of the Brexit Party as you know.
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Just that I personally can’t do anything about where we are

Well, you could withdraw your support from the racist, Fascist Farage...

Urmstongran
Ooooh your good. ???

Never mind MaizieD we will just go round you.

I'm not moving a bl**dy inch, Ug

I don’t ignore the truth.
Just that I personally can’t do anything about where we are - so it’s time to move on.

Both of which are true. (Except that the ref wasn't, in itself, illegal. Certain campaigns corrupted it by their illegal actions)

But you prefer to ignore the truth.

Of course I recall Hillary Clinton got more votes. The Democrats keep reminding everyone of the fact just the same as Remainers here keep telling us the referendum was advisory and illegal.

Okay - just most then.

Have you forgotten, Ug that 'most' of the electorate didn't vote for Trump?

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by a majority of 3 million.

Both the US and the UK have crazy voting systems that are nowhere near being 'democratic'.

(And please don't even mention the corrupted 2016 UK referendum)

For the avoidance of doubt, this is what Trump actually tweeted:

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

Despicable and evil.

I just cannot understand how anyone can excuse this in any way whatsoever.

I see he's learned a new word though, 'inept' I wonder where he got it from....

Urmstongran, I can’t agree with your comment. America is their country and if they perceive something as wrong then they have a right, a duty indeed, to make their voice heard. It is irrelevant which country their forbears originated from. Trump may not agree with them but that does not mean they should not be allowed an opinion.

Okay - just most then.

95% of the electorate?

Bit pointless banging on about how awful Trump is. Fact is right now he will get elected again and the Democratic swerve to the left will make it even more likely.

Noisy lefty types don't get it either in the US or the UK.

You need to be in power to change things and 95% of the electorate aren't from some tiny minority.

Urmstongran although I don't agree with you at all about Trump, your description of Somalia is not wrong.
It has been described as the worst place on earth to live for so many reasons. Even the UN Special Representative was thrown out.
It is understandable that anyone would want to leave and forge a new life elsewhere.

Just for the record - it was me who described Somalia as a basket case country - not Trump.

Urmonstongran your support of Brexit I can understand as you had fallen for the lies and misinformation thought it was the right thing for you, but your support of blatant racism from Trump is frankly, pathetic. What about if one of these democratically elected women told him to go back to his 'basket case' of a country ie Scotland? Do you honestly support everyone in the cabal of Trump,Farage,Tice,Bannon etc? Think they are all great guys? Seriously?

Hi behaviour is dreadful. Look at this week, there's this example and has comments/behaviour towards our US Ambassador.

But what is needed in a head of state is not someone who is "politically adept" at grasping and keeping power for himself and his friends, it is someone who cares for all those living in his country and under his leadership, and who doesn't look after only his own by plundering the rest of the globe and ignoring the problems faced by the whole of humanity.

"Politically adept" people may have perfect control of manipulating people, but that doesn't make them good at steering them in a good direction.

Apparently one of those Congresswoman used the phrase "Let's impeach that Mother******" - so Trump returning the vitriol is no surprise.

Again, UG, you surprise me. This man is the leader of a large and powerful country yet you feel it is okay that he retaliates when someone says something he doesn't like.

What if he retaliates when another free country doesn't go the way he tells them to and presses the red button. Will that leaves you "unsurprised" too or will it depend on where they come from, what colour they are or what religion they follow? Is nuking a country you consider to be a "basket case" going to be okay, just as, it appears, his prejudice against people of that origin is?

Urmstongran, you may see Trump as politically adept. Sadly, he's running America like he ran his various businesses, using the same bullying , offensive language and tactics. We shouldn't forget his businesses didn't all prosper.

Somalia was invaded by Britain, France and Italy, so various parts of the country became colonies of those countries. Later, it became a British Protectorate, gaining independence (I think) in the 1940's, like to many other former British colonies.

I'm not suggesting we all get into a row about the wickedness/power of the British Empire but we also can't ignore the devastation left behind in so many former British colonies.

Somalia is lawless, and doesn't have a stable government. I don't agree it's ok to refer to Somalia as a basket case. But I expect I'd be seen as some kind of over sensitive lefty by Mr T and his supporters. The instability, poverty and lawlessness seen in so many African countries may be possibly be found to have links in colonisation but of course, that isn't something Mr T would accept. He'd no doubt put it down to ethnicity and a determination not to make Africa great again.

His latest tweets about the four congresswomen are par for the course but that does nothing to diminish the fact they're shocking, disgraceful and outrageous to say the least.

To have someone with his personality difficulties as Potus leaves the world a much less safe place.

Regarding my comment about his ‘insecurities’ I try to be measured in my comments and not elevate DT to deity status! It’s obvious he has issues. But he’s very popular. I think he’ll win a second term.

Of course Trump is trolling. First he wants to divert attention from the ICE raids. Second he hopes to split moderate Dems and drive them leftwards where he believes they are less electable. Politically he is surprisingly adept!

No one can accuse Donald J Trump of being unpatriotic.

I certainly can UG. Surely to be patriotic means you support your whole country and all its citizens. In the case of the USA, everyone one is or is descended from, recent immigration unless you are one of America's First People, the Native Americans.

I cannot see how racism can be compatible with being patriotic and I just wonder why anyone admires a white supremacist.