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Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 08:20:33

In his statement Johnson underlined his pledge to ditch the Irish backstop, and ramp up preparations for no deal, and to leave on 31st October regardless of what happens.

Mays withdrawal agreement has been binned, however in a phone call Juncker signalled the EU27s intention of sticking with the deal already negotiated by the British Government. This includes the backstop.

Juncker told Johnson that the EU would be prepared to alter the political declaration.
Ireland has declared itself as “alarmed”
Barnier signalled that Johnson’s rhetoric almost certainly meant that the U.K. was going into a GE.

Expect a huge public information campaign and a large level of spending in preparation for no deal.

growstuff Tue 30-Jul-19 21:00:19

The backstop isn't hated by the Irish.

growstuff Tue 30-Jul-19 20:59:14

This "blinder" has escaped my attention. I don't suppose there's any chance that you could expand on your claim.

Urmstongran Tue 30-Jul-19 20:57:23

Boris Johnson's new Government has – so far – pulled a blinder in terms of doing as much as it can to force the European Union to return to the Brexit negotiating table.

The £100million to be spent on a public information marketing campaign – the biggest since the end of the Second World War – to prepare people for a no deal will focus minds.

And the insistence that Mr Johnson will not meet any of the EU 27 leaders until they agree to look again at the hated Northern Ireland backstop is the right call.

varian Tue 30-Jul-19 13:55:20

In case you're still in any doubt about Johnson and Brexit, here's a reminder of what he's said.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoJRthjdOR4

crystaltipps Tue 30-Jul-19 09:57:36

He / she has had more than one post deleted for blatant fascist propaganda adding nothing to any debate.

Urmstongran Tue 30-Jul-19 09:13:56

Yes I did (do) MaizieD. Yorath posted on this thread only 48 hours ago. I don’t think he’s gone anywhere....

MaizieD Tue 30-Jul-19 09:06:10

I think Yoratho has, like AndyC, taken leave of the forum. You didn't think either of them were serious posters did you, Ug?

Urmstongran Tue 30-Jul-19 09:04:36

Hammond,Gauke, Letwin, Clark,Grieve, Cooper And Starmer - members of the ‘Gaukeward Squad’.

Glum buckets, the lot of them.

Go Boris - get us out - we’ve been finagled long enough!

Urmstongran Tue 30-Jul-19 09:01:54

Yorath0 are you AndyC by any chance? Your posts have a similar style!
?

Lovetopaint037 Tue 30-Jul-19 08:54:55

I feel we are in very dangerous choppy waters and are being towed by the Titanic.

Davidhs Tue 30-Jul-19 07:36:08

Over the top of course, but now the prospects have changed “no deal” looks a probability, in addition it will probably be an acrimonious divorce.

We all know how damaging that can be when all goodwill evaporates, we are turning our backs on our friends and neighbors so don’t expect any favors and they could be very awkward - just like divorcing couples often are.

So we are forced to go and find new friends across the globe and I am sure sterling falls enough they will be willing to give us a cuddle, as usual there will be a price to be paid.

FarNorth Tue 30-Jul-19 00:37:45

From about 8:52 on this video - Why we're all in trouble with Johnson.

youtu.be/kgWsEtMZldM

jura2 Sun 28-Jul-19 20:18:32

LOL, and that is the only positive point of Brexit so far- it has truly brought out the best political caricature humourists out again. have been amazed at Scarfe- he must be in his 80s now! And the same all over the EU and the world. Almost better than Trump did.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 28-Jul-19 19:31:26

We just have to believe

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GracesGranMK3 Sun 28-Jul-19 16:52:37

I'm not surprised you didn't WW2. I didn't know what this was called but it is obviously a deliberate attempt to stop us discussing. How does anyone know it isn't a bot. It's repeating itself now whatever or whoever it is. It sounds as if it comes from the original campaign.

I think Rory Stewart would be excellent fronting the defence against no-deal. I look forward to hearing more about that.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 28-Jul-19 16:36:52

jury yes I’m sorry I didn’t read what I had written.

Elegran Sun 28-Jul-19 16:27:48

I think what our verbose guest is doing is called "post-bombing" - trying to make it very difficult for anyone to discuss a subject because of the constant non-stop reiteration of their exceedingly boring and repetitive babbling. This is not from any hope of debating or persuading, just bludgeoning those who are using any thought into silence.

Done by speakers in parliamentary debate it is Gerrymandering, and when multiplied up by internet robots it becomes a "denial of service attack" and whole servers are so overloaded that they go out of action.

I hope that GNHQ are successful in stopping him/her from doing this. There is free speech and there is abuse of that free speech by preventing anyone else getting a word in edgeways - and I know which I would call this.

Yorath0 Sun 28-Jul-19 16:23:59

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

jura2 Sun 28-Jul-19 16:15:24

Or to you mean, the pulbic face of the alliance against No Deal?

'Rory Stewart is being lined up to lead a campaign to stop a no-deal Brexit, as former cabinet ministers and millionaire donors hold secret talks on the plans.

Philip Hammond, who resigned as chancellor last week, is drumming up support for the campaign and wants Stewart — who had launched a spirited tilt at the Tory leadership that attracted support from young voters — to lead the charge. Stewart resigned last week as international development secretary over his opposition to Boris Johnson’s plans to pursue a no-deal Brexit.' as per Guardian

jura2 Sun 28-Jul-19 16:12:34

Pardon??? Coul you explain this re Rory Stewart???

Whitewavemark2 Sun 28-Jul-19 16:02:05

It is suggested that Rory Stewart is to be the public face of no deal brexit

Whitewavemark2 Sun 28-Jul-19 15:59:43

During Johnson’s leadership campaign, he said that a no deal brexit was a million to one.

Now he is preparing for a no deal.

I didn’t believe him then and I don’t believe him now.

Johnson’s mendacity will always show its ugly face in everything he says.

jura2 Sun 28-Jul-19 15:58:02

ignore - ignore - ignore

Yorath0 Sun 28-Jul-19 15:53:17

LEAVE and WTO
And save 39billion for the British People.

Yorath0 Sun 28-Jul-19 15:47:52

The majority voted to LEAVE.
Democracy and Freedom yes.

LEAVE and WTO
LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE

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