No Deal Brexit Leaflet...

It would be nice to have some Welsh lamb though, sold at a reasonable price, most of it is exported.
It’s possible to buy quite a lot of British made food and goods.

Why should anyone assume that food standards would be lowered here?

Because the US have made it very clear that lowering our food standards is something they would require from a deal with us. As we will be negotiating from a position of weakness we won't have much choice but to accept.

SirC ( and any others)
The referendum result was three years ago, high time to stop being childish with comments to GNers, on either why they voted the way they did, or because they voted the way they did. Their votes were as valid as those who voted to remain.
There is a vast difference to a head in sand approach to a rational and practical outlook that isn’t hysterical about what will happen in the future.
We cannot continue the way we are ( in Parliament ) this deadlock has to be broken one way or another to honour the democratic vote to leave.

People who keep telling us to buy British are clearly completely unaware that Britain doesn't produce enough food to feed all its inhabitants and hasn't for a very long time Either that or they're living in a parallel universe.

That’s silly SirC I and others voted for lots of things when we voted to Leave the EU.
Ability to make our own trade agreements, an end to free movement of people and to have total, as opposed to partial control of our own laws rules and regulations.
What the general voting public didn’t have ( obviously!) was a say in how leaving the EU would be achieved, that’s the job of government.

Head in sand your approach for everything in life lemon?

Nothing wrong with my imagination thanks, but I prefer not to run around squawking until something concrete is being discussed, not some ‘American chappie’ saying vague things on tv.
Johnson is not ‘my’ new leader, he is everybody’s new leader as PM, and since I am not a Conservative member I couldn’t vote on it, if I had been, I would have chosen Hunt.
Why should anyone assume that food standards would be lowered here? There is too much ‘assuming’ going on as regards what will happen here and that things will automatically be ‘bad’.

*You are joking, right!
It’s not my job to have all the details and planning*

Not at all. I'm asking what you voted for - you must have some idea, but nope. None of the Leavers on here can tell us what they thought they were getting from Brexit.

It's a bit like this. Say you had a car and you weren't happy with the finance package. You went to a dealership and the car salesperson said they could get you a different car and a better deal. You'd want to know immediately (amongst other things)
- what model of car you were getting.
- what the finance arrangements were. What does 'better' actually mean
- what you pay in road tax
- any mileage restrictions
- and so on
You would never, ever put your name to something that would affect your finances, your ability to move about, to get your family from A to B and so on without checking the details first, just because a car salesperson said they could get you a better deal by moving. It's the same with Brexit (only 100 times worse) - you have literally no idea what you've signed the country up to. None.

lemon “the U.K. wouldn’t allow a cheap filler”

Wrong, your new leader doesn’t believe in sin taxes. Johnson will welcome it.

We DO eat mostly British foodstuff in the UK, but it's convenient to be able to import from warmer climates, such as Spain, during the winter months.

I really don't understand the point of your post, Firecracker, and think you fail to understand the point at issue.

America is super-keen to have an agreement with the UK to export American produce. Standards are lower than currently in the EU (including the UK) and can be produced more cheaply. British producers won't be able to compete, so will either go out of business or be forced to lower standards.

And that's before American providers get even more access to the NHS...

Why can't you imagine it? Do you have insider knowledge or don't you have a very good imagination? Of course it will happen, if food standards are lowered to enable American manufacturers to take advantage of trade agreements.

It seems more like a case of being blinkered. You didn't even know what "corn starch" was! ;-)

growstuff I can’t imagine the UK will allow any cheap filler that would contribute to obesity problems here.Obesity is already a problem which the government and food industry is well aware of.
Of course the temporary shortages are due to harvests/weather, I wish others would think the same instead of blaming every darn thing on Brexit.It’s also due
To managers of supermarkets taking staff off shelf stacking duties and putting them on tills ( my own supermarket does this, the staff there even urged me to write to Sainsbury and complain about it, which I did.)

BUY BRITISH boycott EU produce as much as you can. Buy British chicken, beef, turkey, lamb, fruit and veg. It's your choice what you buy have a bit of common sense.

I suspect current shortages are more to do with temporary conditions such as weather and harvests. Over the last decades, we've become spoilt and expect everything to be available all through the year. I can take that in my stride.

I'm more concerned about the long-term effects of the UK increasing American food imports. HFCS and chlorinated chicken are just two examples. UK manufacturers will have to lower their own standards to compete on price. It's all very well saying that people can choose what they buy, but how many people know what HFCS is and that it's in so many American food products, eg. yoghurt, coleslaw, croutons, etc etc, not just fizzy drinks and biscuits. The Americans eat nearly 100 times the amount we eat.

Fructose is implicated in the rise in rates of obesity and Type 2 diabetes, because it doesn't stimulate insulin production in the same way other sugars do. Obviously natural fruit contains fructose, but HFCS doesn't have the nutrients of fruit and it's mainly "hidden", so people don't know they're eating it. It's much cheaper than sugar, so it brings costs down, which is why the less affluent are attracted to it.

I've noticed some empty shelves recently in 2 local supermarkets, particularly in the fruit and veg areas. I hope this isn't a taste of things to come but if it has anything to do with the fall in the value of the pound it probably will be. I think there is way too much complacency about a 'no deal brexit' being something we'll cope with by 'pulling together'. I hope I'm proved wrong but sadly I don't expect I will be!

lemongrove, It isn't cornstarch, known as cornflour, which is the problem in American foodstuffs which is the problem, but High Fructose Corn Syrup, which is a hidden ingredient in many manufactured foods. It's dirt cheap and is added as a thickening and sweetening agent and has been implicated in many research studies as a major cause of the rise in obesity in the US. The problem is that it adds calories and people don't know they're eating it.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18393391

High Fructose Corn Syrup is rarely used by UK and other EU producers and is strictly limited by production quotas.

It's in a huge number of manufactured foodstuffs, but especially cheaper ones, which are the ones the least affluent are likely to buy.

There wasn't a plan; there isn't a plan now and, from what I can see there never will be a plan.....

Can’t believe all these pompous people on here think they know better than the rest of us.

Well, we 'pompous people' can't believe that people voted Leave without any idea of how the EU works and how complex it would be to leave.

If the UK wants to have chlorinated chicken or corn syrup ( whatever that is) on supermarket shelves, then am guessing we won’t be forced at gunpoint to purchase them.

But it will greatly lessen our chances of getting a good trade deal with the EU because they won't want to run the risk of substandard food getting into their food chain via the UK.

And the American chappie was not quite honest about their food not being dangerous. Americans have a one in six chance of getting food poisoning from their 'not dangerous' food. Whereas the figure for the UK, complying with EU food standards, is a one in sixty chance. I suppose the Americans have just got used to being felled by food poisoning;but it's not something I want to get used to.

Can’t believe all these pompous people on here think they know better than the rest of us.We voted in a democratic referendum to leave the EU.......not for a deal ,it said ‘Leave or Remain’.......that is what over 17 million voted for & that’s what what will happen hopefully.

Oh well, if there was some American chappie on tv saying we should lower our food standards then of course we should do.
If the UK wants to have chlorinated chicken or corn syrup ( whatever that is) on supermarket shelves, then am guessing we won’t be forced at gunpoint to purchase them.

You are joking, right!
It’s not my job to have all the details and planning.
It’s quite obvious what Leavers voted for three years ago, for the UK to leave the EU and to cease being a member.
Make trade agreements with all and sundry, and run our own country.
This doesn't mean we will cease trading with countries within the EU.It’s up to the government and Parliament to arrange how things are done, which so far, with all the divisions has been impossible.This is not, repeat not, the fault of anyone who voted to Leave.
We were offered a straight choice at the referendum, not the way in which we would leave, but either leave or remain and the public assumed they would get on with it and work together in Parliament for the best deal possible.

lemongrove, Could you explain why talk of chlorinated chicken and corn syrup is nonsense?

There was some American chappie on TV not so long ago (sorry, have forgotten his name) who said that the UK should lower its food safety standards, because US food isn't dangerous. Hmmm! I thought the idea was that we left one Big Brother - and now some people seem to think it's OK to have our food hygiene standards dictated by another Big Brother.

People who want to remain know perfectly well how the future would look. They're not the ones who want radical change.

I suspected as much. No details, no planning, nothing. An utter shambles. This affects every single part of our lives and that of our children and grandchildren - and yet no Leaver can tell us what the hell they actually voted for. Jesus wept.