The economy.

lemon, who do you feel would benefit from your lessons in civility please?

Well, if I get lots of flax Barmey I can do a bit of weaving.

Well said Grandad, a bit of sense at last.

Apologies, should be "stated" above not "stared"

From the Guardian today 'Johnson adviser said Tories do not care about poor people or NHS '

yes, we have noticed- the proof is in the pudding and GN.

GrannyGravy13, All businesses will be affected should delays start to occur through the ports.

It matters little what your business is, or who your suppliers are, or what the Mayor of Calais has stared. The simple fact is that the European Union will have to protect itself from goods entering the EU that do not meet their standards following a no-deal Brexit.

Therfore checks will have to be made on their side of the Channel and at the Irish border and tariffs levied. Even if the UK does not impose checks on the British side of those Borders delays will still occur to the vehicles going out and as those trucks operate on a round trip JIT basis disruption will still in all probability be widespread.

There is also the situation that if the UK does not impose checks and tariffs on freight arriving into Britain, businesses will find themselves paying millions in tariffs on their goods going into Europe, while European based businesses will pay nothing on their goods entering Britain. A huge commercial advantage to them.

So, I will continue to point out rediculas statements where I perceive them GrannyGravy13 whether you appreciate that or not.

Start stocking up the Brexit cupboards again.

Get use to it Lemongrove, more flax will coming your way as we go down the pan because of Brexit.

Lemongrove the insults work ways.

Putin must be rubbing his hands over an imminent Western Alliance split.
We can't afford to lose support from the EU especially when it comes to military ties aside of the Brexit vote.
BJ isn't doing this country any favours at all----the idiot !
What he thinks he's justifying is beyond me as his hostility towards Europe is a disgrace.

It’s been going on for three years GG13

Lemongrove I am beginning to think that those who voted leave are going to be on the receiving end of lots of things in the coming months.

Day6 I think that some posters imagine that because they are angry about leaving the EU they can say anything at all to others.

Lessismore, why not? Some need a lecture on civility where Brexit posts are concerned.

Grandad you are obviously not aware of the Statement by the Mayor of Calais.

You do not know my business or my suppliers, please do not lecture me on a company that has been successful for over 40 years.

GrannyGravy13 Quote [ Our suppliers have given us assurances that there will be little or no disruption to supply chain (these are extremely big multi nationals)] End Quote.

GrannyGravy13, your suppliers are making a rediculas statement in the above. No matter how large they are they do not control the flow of vehicles through the ports and therefore any delays that may occur due to checks having to be carried out due to Brexit.

The situation is in the Road Haulage Industry that many very experienced HGV drivers carrying out Continental operations are stating that they do not wish to do those journeys should Brexit mean they will be sitting in their cabs going nowhere for days on end.

Further to the above, Britain has a shortage of nearly fifty thousand truck drivers according to many estimates, so alternative HGV owner driver or employed drivers will be very difficult to find.

Hauliers based in Europe are also stating that they will not be undertaking journeys to Britain if delays start to occur at the ports. No one makes any money from a truck sat doing nothing, and they will still have twenty-seven other countries in the European Union they can operate in.

Therefore and as stated, for your suppliers to state that "no delays will occur in their supply chain to your business" GrannyGravy13 is totally and absolutely rediculas.

You may get better advice by looking on the Road Haulage Association website, where as we run-up to the 31st of October the latest news will be available.

Ah Day 6 , I see you are playing the old ..." Well Labour are baddies" card.

lemon, don't lecture on civility.

Thanks Lemon

If posters can accept there are two camps as far as leaving the EU is concerned, they would not have to rely on insulting those who look at things differently.

Day6, us retainers don't have to do anything to make you look stupid, you are doing that all on your own

How very mature of you Barmeyoldbat

And yet all I have written is substantiated on line. Just because you do not like it, or those who voted to Leave the EU, you choose to insult me. Who looks foolish, eh?

Crossed posts, Barmeyoldbat!

Barmyoldbat...... I see it quite another way!
I see that as the prospect of us leaving the EU becomes more real, so the insults fly on forums from those who still cannot accept leaving.
How about staying civil to posters whichever way they voted, whilst putting your point across ( a novel idea it seems.)

Day6, we Remainers, unfortunately, do not have to try to make some of those with opinions similar to yours look stupid. Do you really think that your £350 million would not disappear straight away into the economic black hole which Brexit will cause, and be able to go anywhere near the NHS?

We are leaving a lot more than a 'trading block' - we are leaving all the cooperative scientific and medical research, and funding.

WW2 is so right 'They aren’t being blockaded, that is ridiculous, if there is a no deal there is no trade agreement in place on 1 November - simples.'

the other issues re medicines is that they will be hugely expensive to import with the Pound so low. And of course, in case of shortages- the EU and allied countries will prioritise their own- quite naturally.

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I am assuming you do not have children whose jobs are reliant on Europe nor work in businesses which deal with Europe

You assume wrongly dragonfly

My youngest works and trains others in Italy and Austria. Both the projects he supports have opened their own quarters in the UK, using the UK technology and employing local people. This exchange is set to continue after we leave the EU. It benefits all three countries. All concerns have planned for a No Deal Brexit too.

We are not leaving Europe. We are leaving a trading bloc.