Post Brexit food

I don't have a monopoly on being rude ;-)

Oh dear. Anyone else feeling nostalgic for the days of DJ and her cronies? Rude as **, but at least they added intelligence and knowledge to the debate?

Oh goody goody gumdrops! Let's all go back to the 1960s, so some people can relive their youth. My memory of that time was of pretty revolting food, which I wouldn't touch these days.

David Lewis, CEO of Tesco, said last month that Brexit could be a good time to "take stock".

It may be a good time for the UK to... decide, actually: what food do we want to eat, with what impact on health, with what impact on the environment. Having a food strategy for the country would be a very good outcome.

I lived before we joined the EU. Nobody starved for lack of available food in the shops. Poor children were given orange juice in bottles if they looked malnourished and vitamin drops. In the UK farmers had fields full of crops, sheep and cattle. They were allowed to sell meat and veg as much as they could. No restrictions or quotas. Anyone remember the butter mountain or milk river? We produced too much and the EU forbade us to sell it so it was destroyed.

Foreign fishermen have bought the right to fish in UK waters. Who is going to compensate them for being deprived of something which is legally theirs?

WOODMOUSE, Are you aware that our own fishermen sold their quotas to fish in UK waters to foreign companies? They made a tidy sum at the time.

PS. Rationing would actually result in stable prices and fairer distribution, which was the objective during WW2.

No, but supply and demand will cause prices to rise.

The government itself (and nobody can accuse the current government of being anti-Brexit) has stated that 30% of our food is imported (more in the winter months) and it expects 50% of lorries to be delayed, which means that food will be less fresh, if not rotten.

We CANNOT suddenly grow that extra food in the UK.

That isn't Project Fear, unless people are accusing Johnson, Gove, etc of being responsible for Project Fear.

merlotgran

You ask why we import fish when we are surrounded by it.

The issue of fishing has become one of the most highly charged Brexit issues. The current EU system is perceived as unfair, with vessels from other EU nations landing 10 times more fish from UK waters than vice versa.

Fishing was one of the factors that influenced my voting decision. I live in Cornwall and fishing and farming is our main industry.

With respect, I know I am leaving myself wide open to criticism with what I have said as I know that fishing is a conflicting issue with a Brexit deal.

I don't want to fill this comment box with reams and reams of information about fishing but I will end on a quote from fisherman Aaron Brown, founder of the Fishing for Leave group, who disagrees that the UK would lose out from a hard Brexit: “We regain approximately 600,000 tonnes net from a clean Brexit. Prices may drop short term but eventually they will recover as the UK processing industry also rebuilds.”

“If the UK regains what should be rightfully her resources, implements new UK policy to address both EU and domestic failings, then the future can be very bright for British fishing,”

I think it is reasonable to expect some disruption of supply from Europe but that’s only a part of our needs we grow a lot in the UK and a lot more comes in from further afield.
So maybe not everything you want will be on the shelves but there will be alternatives, there won’t be ration cards issued, imagine the beaurocracy in that.

WOODMOUSE, Did you realise that there are parts of the country where there are no Morrisons stores?

olliebeak, How do you suggest people in inner cities source their fresh food from local suppliers?

That's why fruit/veg/meat/fish markets sprang up in London centuries ago. Produce was shipped in from all over the country and the world.

(Sigh)

And Remainers are accused of being rude!

(not you, merlotgran)

If products like lamb and fish were not so expensive the British market would surely pick up? Instead of worrying about tariffs, why not sell at a more affordable price in this country?

Feel free to put me straight if I'm way off track but why are we importing fish when we're surrounded by the stuff?

Of course you all know that the French and Chinese and other foreign companies own our energy supply infrastructure.

Yes Remainers are full off hot air you could have a group hole to keep you nice and warm ?

pantglas - I'm with you completely on the 'buy locally sourced and eat seasonally'. We need to support the farmers who produce closest to where we live - let's keep the 'road miles' to a minimum - the fresher the better.

We could start off by digging a hole in the ground and staying there overnight. I'm sure that would save on electricity.

How about a return to most people (men at least) smoking?

I wonder why the Brexiters didn't promote the health inspiring aspect of food shortages and rationing during the campaign. Let's all return to wartime conditions, chuck out those washing machines, dishwashers, and every other convenience and return to beating carpets over the washing line. The exercise will do us good, build up those muscles

my.morrisons.com/blog/community/all-morrisons-meat-100-british-100-of-the-time/

I have heard that Morrison's only buy meat from their own British farmers so maybe shop there for meat unless you can buy directly from farm shop as I often do.

You're trying to wind us up, aren't you, newnanny?

Bluebelle. Given how healthy we were with food rationing before think I will enjoy losing excess weight. Slimming World and Weight Watchers may have a drop in profits though, not living off the fat of the land. Away to dig over half my garden for veg come the Apocalypse.

Apparently Wales exports more electricity than it uses.