Post Brexit food

^I wasn't there in person but we're told there were food shortages and very limited options during the war and (to put two threads together) people weren't overweight but they survived. Perhaps a bit of austerity will do us good^ Unbelievable.

Well done Adelejay

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And as for living in better conditions here.

I take it you haven't seen any of the numerous programmes where houses are filled to the rafters with Eastern Europeans sleeping 10 to a room. In appalling, unsafe conditions. Being over worked and underpaid.

I find it disgusting, and I'll happily use the word disgusting, to suggest we nee to use cheap labour from the EU to do the jobs we don't want to do.

Just like we were in Colonial times!

Let the poor Polish/Romanians clean our loos.

Lovely attitude.

Interesting about U.K. remaining outside the Eurozone - when the Euro first came into being for a few years it was worth 60p which for sterling was better value than against other European currencies of mother time. It is now worth 90+ p for a each Euro - are we still better to be outside the Eurozone?

We import 60% of our foodstuffs, about 40% from the EU. We won’t suddenly increase our food production in 2 months, so we will be paying more for less. Is that what we were promised? No, we were promised that everything would be the same, we’d have a great deal and we’d have a lot more money to spend on public services. People seem to have stopped saying that somewhere along the line, now it’s well have to grow our own and put up with a bit more austerity. The country isn’t going to suddenly “ pull together” and “get behind this marvellous project” so forget that one. Leavers can own their own mess thanks.

Varian, I think I will sign up to the Lib Dems. I have always disliked extremes of left or right. I accepted the referendum result - I voted remain- but think leaving without a deal is ridiculous self harm.

Why is it a disgusting comment to explain that Eastern Europeans will sometimes do jobs we won't do? It's a fact that they can earn more and live in better conditions than is often possible in Eastern Europe. That's changing, by the way, which is why the trend is for Poles and others to return home.

I reserve the word "disgusting" for really disgusting situations.

I doubt there will be rationing, either. Quite frankly, we don't have the organisation, staffing or political will to do it.

What will happen is that food supply will be left to market forces. If there is scarcity of certain foodstuffs, prices will rise, so only the more affluent will be able to afford them.

Maybe we plebs should dig out some recipes for turnip soup, which I'm sure is delicious.

Well said Varian. What have we come to as a country, talking about food shortages and rationing in 2019. I guess Rees-Mogg will still be able to feed his family using euros from his Irish company.

I've no intention of patting anybody on the back. Actually, almost half the country agrees with me, so I'm hardly on my own.

I actually think so much damage has been done to values in this country that it will take years to recover - whether Brexit happens or not, so I'm certainly not patting myself on the back, unlike some of the Brexiter posters on here who were celebrating before 31 March.

Yet another strawman argument!

What a thread with horrible remarks.
I dont think it will come to rationing,surely there are plans in place in order the UK wont go under.If people dont start panic buying now,things will be alright later on.Lets all help each other as they did during the war, and things were much worse then.

The best thing we can do to redress the situation for our children and grandchildren is to campaign to STOP BREXIT.

Join the Liberal Democrats or Greens or another Remain supporting party. Write to MPs, newspapers, websites. Support the People's Vote campaign.

Brexit is not, and should not, be inevitable. It should not be treated as a fait-a-complis. It could happen but it could be stopped.

The problem with being relentlessly positive about supplies after a no deal Brexit is that it flies in the face or reality.

I do believe there will be fresh food shortages & price rises, though I don’t think we will starve. I also think that there will be panic buying, it’s human nature. I think in the end there might have to be rationing for some goods. The supply of medicines is a particular worry.

I am convinced the rich will get richer & the rest of us will be poorer. I am currently trying to think what I can do to redress the situation for my children & grandchildren.

What a ridiculous response.
What use would it be to stockpile fresh fruit and veg ?
3 days and that's it.
How about hammering those who are comfortably off for everything that you object to. It happens time and again.
Don't forget, barely more than half of all UK adults pay tax whilst companies banks and the better off are asked to pay more.
Some of us worked and still work our socks off to get to the level of comfort we want in retirement.

Just out of interest I looked at origins of veg I had (Tesco). Beans from Ethiopia, asparagus from UK, strawberries from UK, xx

I wonder how we managed for food pre 1973?
I don't agree with brexit, but that's my choice. However, all this scaremongering is ridiculous. I know what I'd like to do with Cameron et al!

Sighs. Growstuff Many of the arguments on here are from those who wish to remain saying that leavers are dim because they won't listen to experts. You rely on experts for many of your points. But obviously experts from 10, 20
years ago weren't experts at all. Because they got it wrong so you don't want to be reminded that your beloved 'experts' can get things wrong.

I also did not say that anyone 'hated' the EU either.

You lot talk amongst yourselves.

You can all pat each other on the back saying 'well said' to each other. One day you'll wake up and see you're on your own.

Even in this post Leavers are being referred to as ignorant.

I think that your ignorance of the EU is astounding actually. You seem to see it as some sort of Utopia.

Oh and one more thing. I saw a comment saying that we needed the EU in order to allow Eastern Europeans to come in to do jobs that we won't do.

How insulting is that? Disgusting attitude. So we're basically behaving as we did in the past. Get the poor people to come and do our awful jobs.

Check up on tariffs to Africa.

Try and educate yourselves. Not just with articles that suit your agenda.

If you go back to the OP.

I accept that there will be shortages, what I am saying that to prevent all the greedy b.......s grabbing more than their fair share, there ought to be some form of rationing, even if it is only for a few months. If rationing doesn’t take place then the feeling if division and unfairness will simply get worse.

Well said. I’m off. Can’t be bothered to read this rubbish

We can grow fruit and veg in this country.

Last weekend I bought chilli chicken bites from our local butcher. When I came to read the cooking instruction I was shocked to see "chicken imported from Thailand, previously frozen". I was really annoyed as I thought the butcher was using local meat, not passing off rubbish as local. I will be having a word and won't buy from him again.

I wasn't there in person but we're told there were food shortages and very limited options during the war and (to put two threads together) people weren't overweight but they survived. Perhaps a bit of austerity will do us good.

I’ve actually worked for charities in India for 6 months twice in my younger days and still keep in touch with one or two colleagues as it happens growstuff.

Never suggested that leaving EU was going to help them - perhaps you’ve confused me with someone else?

Missfoodlove, Do your greengrocers have a private plane and know enough black market dealers? How can you be so sure that they will be able to supply what their customers want? Seriously?

I keep trying to tell myself some people have a different perspective but it keeps being overridden by the question of how some people ended up being so ignorant.