Corbyn as caretaker

Remain

What alternatives are there for the majority who want to premain in the EU?

No Varian that was not what I meant at all but your intransigence will not let you see alternatives that might allow you to be nearer to your choice and possibly even achieve it.

Who cannot compromise? If compromise means leave the EU on any terms I don't see the point. How would that be as good, let alone better than the great deal we have now?

You will lose everything Varian, because you cannot compromise.

What this country urgently needs is a political leader brave enough to do what the majority of our UK population want and STOP BREXIT.

I would certainly support a temporary government led by Jeremy Corbyn or anyone else, which would immediately REVOKE ARTICLE 50.

GracesGranMK3, I very much agree with your above post. Britain does not require any "government of National Unity" should this Boris Johnson shambles fall.

All this nation would need would be a few MPs that agree on one issue, and that would be to stop this nation facing the chaos of leaving the European Union at the end of October with no deal.

Nothing else would be required but that.

I think calling it a "temporary" government sums it up so much better that reusing the war-time "Government of National Unity. We are not at war. This current government are willing our country to be a less "weighty" player in the world. A temporary government would only have one job to do and that is to give us a chance to reverse a situation no one ever voted for.

Further to my above post, it certainly looks as if Jeremy Corbyn will not voluntarily stand aside to allow any other MP to lead the temporary government that may be required following a successful vote If no confidence in the Johnson administration.

The above I believe is the correct course of action for Corbyn, as it is him as leader of the opposition that will have to move the above motion of no confidence and therefore convince the House of Commons that this shambles of a government should be removed.

Therefore, should the motion of no confidence be carried by the house them it should be for Jeremy Corbyn to immediately set up that temporary government which will have only two sole purposes, that being to secure an extension of Article fifty from the EU and then call a General Election.

It has to be remembered that following the loss of a vote such as the above Johnson will have fourteen days to try and form a government that is acceptable to parliament prior to him resigning as Prime Minister. Should that be the case any temporary administration formed may have only days to prevent Britain crashing out of the EU with no deal at the end of October.

In the above, there will be no time for argument around who should head that temporary government, and therefore I believe that Corbyn should in such circumstances just select a small number of members for that administration and put that body before parliament for acceptance or rejection.

In short, challenge the House of Commons to accept that body or in all probability condemn this nation to the mayhem of a no-deal withdrawal from the EU.

I believe that before the argument around who should lead any "temporary government", it should be remembered that "a vote of no confidence" has to be moved and then carried by the House of Commons on its return in September, and that is "no done deal."

For the above motion to be carried by the House, a number of Conservative MPs will have to vote against their own party and Government and that is by no means certain from reports in the media.

Jeremy Corbyn as leader of her Her Majesty's opposition is the only person in Parliament who can move such a motion against a sitting government. Therefore, what Corbyn states to the whole House of Commons in moving that motion of no confidence may well decide how the above Conservative MPs will vote.

Corbyn will have to convince a considerable majority of MPs that any temporary government set up following the fall of the Johnson administration would be in power for no more than to gain an extension of Article fifty from the European Union and then as a second and final act call a General Election.

The address that Corbyn gives to the House of Commons in moving that motion has to be the greatest speech of his political career I believe. However, it is accepted by many even within Corbyn's close associates that parliamentary speaking, unlike his political campaigning, is not Jeremy Corbyn's strongest forte.

In the above, should the Motion of no Confidence fail to be carried by the House of Commons, then I believe that Britain leaving the European Union with no deal would be almost inevitable.

Early September will be it seems a nail-biting time for all who wish to see stability maintained within the United Kingdom.

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Kindergarten is much, much nicer.

My apogies to WW my post was to GG MK3

Lessismore Wed 21-Aug-19 15:13:05

The thing is Annie, we get it, you can't stand him. You have given some reasons why. It's done now.
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So Corbyn cannot be criticised but threads regarding other parties and politicians are ' still allowed'.

What is this kindergarten.

WW

"Who said anyone "wants" a unity government."

So you don't want a Unity Government? The thread is about the formation of a Government of Unity which many say they want, what the country needs. So plenty are saying they want a Unity Government.
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" It's surely only a means to an end POGs."

So now you imply you do want a Unity Government and see it as ' a means to an end' but what is the means to an end? What is the End?

The parties involved don't even share a common ground on whether to Remain or Leave, Revoke Article 50 or not, hell the Lib Dems and Greens are stating even if there is another Referendum unless it goes their way, Remain, they will still not agree with the result.

Then there is the question of trust and respect and the opinions of Corbyn supporters even on here is reflective of what you here and read on social media and from politicians themselves.

Tribal politics, hatred of other parties and comments such as those we see directed to Jo Swinson even on this thread are par for the course but it is pure hypocrisy to then vote for the Lib Dems to slag them off afterwards, it is totally Unprincipled.

It is hypocrisy to call for a Government of Unity if you can't even agree with each others policies, don't agree what the end result should be, insult those who are expected to be your partners united, I could go on.

No Lessismore , if Corbyn can be praised he can be criticise

The thing is Annie, we get it, you can't stand him. You have given some reasons why. It's done now.

You are clearly an intelligent and capable person, turn your thoughts and energies elsewhere.

Criticise all politicians that’s acceptable but to criticise Corbyn means hatred
or Corbyn bashing

The hate Corbyn threads are really silly.

Sorry, political scene not for me, I'm not making any sense.

I feel he is a disappointment, sadly in this day and age you have to look the part, I think he's too old. But yes the country sure is being sold down the river.

I disagree Lessismore, he definitely is.

We need to STOP believing the mainstream media and start looking for our own answers.

I support Labour. Corbyn is their (very popular) leader.

Our country is being sold down the river. We MUST staunch the flow and the Conservatives will never do it.

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God, there are no staunch Corbynites. The man has had it handed to him on a plate, he is not up to the job.

For the love of God, somebody with some integrity come out of the closet or the broom cupboard or where ever you are hiding.

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Who said anyone "wants" a unity government. It's surely only a means to an end POGs. It will take a lot to pull all the disparate views together and, I imagine, it will last for the shortest time possible if at all. It won't really be a Government of National Unity, rather a Government of Momentary Unity.