Liberal Democrats

You asked me for a link MaizieD and because it wouldn’t work, I kindly explained to you where I had read only four days go about EU millions going to the business or charity that Jo Swinson’s husband works for.

Then you tell me ‘not to bother Ug’ because it’s rubbish!

Honestly no wonder some of us give up even trying on here.

Why did you read it and then dismiss it please?

More than 6 million people signed an open letter (ie petition to parliament) earlier this year, asking for Article 50 to be REVOKED.

I know what she said. Not everyone agrees with her political points scoring.

And as you see the numbers are going up in open letter

Jo Swinson has merely pointed out that Corbyn will not get enough support from across the house. The numerous ex-Tory, ex_Labour, independents and even some current Labour MPs do not support him.

Sent

www.anothereurope.org/open-letter/swinson/

2010 - We can work with #Labour but Brown must go say #LibDems
2012 - We can work with Labour but Ed Balls must go say Lib Dems
2019 -We Can work with Labour but #Corbyn must go say Lib Dems
Are you seeing a pattern yet?
Memo to Yellow Tories: you don't get to choose our leaders

Instead of trying to woo Tory voters, Jo Swinson should be getting behind Corbyn

www.thecanary.co/opinion/2019/10/08/instead-of-trying-to-woo-tory-voters-jo-swinson-should-be-getting-behind-corbyn/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35756258

This link might work - as you say Maizie 2016 is not pre-war. It is a year I well remember.

Your link to the Scotsman article is broken, varian. It has to be copied & pasted to work.

The story is dated 2016, not exactly 'prewar', paddy, unless you count the last 3 years as Civil War in the UK...

My source was the ‘NyeBevanNews’ Tuesday 8 October 2019 MaizieD
I tried to post a link.

Don't bother, Ug, I've already read it. It is, of course, perpetrating utter falsehoods, as I think varian has already shown.

As for petra's accusation. Still waiting for evidence..

Some of us can still remember 2016 which was, at least in politics, a very bad year.

20`16

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-to-oppose-
changes-to-sunday-trading-in-england-1-4053917

good grief you must have really dug deep to find that ..was it pre war ?

What a lot of character smearing goes on in inter-party politics. Is it to distract from a lack of positive policies?

SNP MPs voted to prevent English shops opening at certain times when Scottish were allowed to open as they claimed that the Scottish shops could lose their English customers - silly and provocative.

There is no law to prevent MPs representing Scottish, Welsh of NI constituencies from becoming PM of the United Kingdom.

That was before EVEL was brought inhumptdumpty English Votes For English Laws .Announced the day after the Independence referendum in 2014 .Supposedly to calm englands fears about being ruled by anyone but England.It was a nonsense anyway.SNP Mp's have never voted on English matters .

Am I missing something - wasn't Gordon Brown the MP for a Scottish seat?

Granny23 posts- "No one ever seems to mention that Jo Swinson cannot become Prime Minister because she sits for a Scottish seat. Under EVEL legislation she would have to leave the chamber during any debate that concerned England or England/Wales only, eg education, NHS. Does anyone know if it is her intention to stand in a seat in England at the next GE? Varian?"

My understanding is that English Votes for English Laws may apply to a whole bill, specific clauses or schedules, Lords amendments, a statutory instrument, or specific Budget resolutions.

Two tests must be met for EVEL to apply:

The first test is that the bill (or clause or schedule of the bill), statutory instrument or Budget resolution relates exclusively to England (or England and Wales, or England, Wales and Northern Ireland).

The second test is that it is “within devolved legislative competence”. In other words, that the Scottish Parliament, the National Assembly for Wales or the Northern Ireland Assembly could legislate in their territories on the same matter.

This is entirely reasonable as MPs in English Constituencies deal with UK matters and English matters as there is no devolved Parliament in England.

However there is no reason whatsoever that an MP representing a constituency in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland cannot be Prime Minister. That is just a myth fostered by the nationalists.

I know it will disappoint the SNP, but Jo Swinson will, barring unforeseen circumstances, be the Scottish Liberal Democrat candidate for East Dumbartonshire at the next general election

I'll take that last statement back Swinson is just a liar like Carmichael so its not really a surprise

My source was the ‘NyeBevanNews’ Tuesday 8 October 2019
MaizieD

I tried to post a link.

Politics is volatile Varian I dont hate Swinson or anyone else who took a seat from us last time round.They were voted in by the public.We'll get the seat back anyway..in the meantime Ms Swinson has ststed she wont join a coalition to form a temporary government...not with Labour ...not with the SNP who have more than double the number of seats she has EVEN with her turncoat tories .So that leaves Tories and she has always been happy to support everything they propose in the H.OF C.You really should look at her voting record Varian its certainly not what anyone would expect of a Lib Dem !!

No one ever seems to mention that Jo Swinson cannot become Prime Minister because she sits for a Scottish seat. Under EVEL legislation she would have to leave the chamber during any debate that concerned England or England/Wales only, eg education, NHS. Does anyone know if it is her intention to stand in a seat in England at the next GE? Varian?

Jo Swinsons husband has also received money from the George Sorros organisation.

Soros is a philanthropist. Transparency International is a registered charity. No reason why he shouldn't donate to it.

If you have incontrovertible evidence that Jo Swinson's husband was personally given money by Soros, petra, would you publish it here, with links so we can all access it.

Otherwise, I suggest that you (and Ug) stop trying to smear him by lies and insinuations.

I agree paddyann Awinson is a Tory.
See Heidi Allen has joined the L/D's. She suggests another 20 Tories would like to follow suit.
@joswinson
must be ecstatic, leader of her very own Tory party.

There’ll soon be more ex-Tory MPs that Lib Dem MPs. Lib Dem supporters, how do you feel about your Party becoming the Conservative Part Mark 2?

Lib dems backed by big business and fracking companies

Please note that Transparency International UK is not a company but a registered charity

Jo Swinsons husband has also received money from the George Sorros organisation.

Here ars the accounts of Transparency International UK which show a £2000 donation from the EU in 2017-18 and zero in 2018-19

www.transparency.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Transparency-International-UK-Trustees-Report-and-Financial-Statements-ye-31-March-2019.pdf