Liberal Democrats

Dr David Nicholl , who wrote part of the medical section of the Yellowhammer document and clashed with Jacob Rees-Mogg is to run as a Lib Dem candidate in Sajiv Javid's WestMidlands seat ofBromsgrove in the next general election. to expose ‘Brexit dishonesty’

The Liberal Democrats would rather have a People's Vote before a General Election, but if the GE comes first, or whenever it comes, there are reasons to expect some great gains.

One LibDem target seat is that of Jacob Rees Mogg, who shows arrogant contempt for those who live outside his privileged bubble. He seems to have no idea how normal people live and that many have to struggle to survive, and yet he voted for benefit cuts at every opportunity.

He can be beaten at the General Election. A few months ago the Liberal Democrats won the Council and European elections in his NE Somerset constituency and Rees-Mogg himself now has a Lib Dem councillor.

Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson calls in police over threat to one of her children

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4764518/jo-swinson-child-threat-lib-dem/

This is what has become of our country thanks to the irresponsible rhetoric of the leaders of the leavers and the ultra-brexit supporting gutter press.

Like the late Jo Cox, Jo Swinson is a very brave woman who is prepared to tell the truth about brexit - the damage that it has already done and the much worse damage that could be inflicted on our country if it is not stopped.

She should not have to suffer threats to her own life, let alone that of her child. It is utterly disgraceful.

A lie repeated many times does not become the truth.

In the same way abusive nonsense posted on several GN tbreads is still abusive nonsense

Posting such mindless rubbish just reflects badly on the poster.

I've heard a rumour that the Liberal Democrats have been re-named the ILLiberal UNDemocrats. Can this be true?

Even by the usual QT standards, last night was appallingly pro-Brexit, and the standard of audience questions was very poor in general. I had hoped that there would have been a question about The Sun story about Ben Stokes' family, a terrible incident which happened before he was born, in New Zealand. Absolutely shameful IMO. Or about the RNLI farrago. It is becoming Brexit time, not Question time. But, back to the LibDems and their policy; it made me uncomfortable at first, as I would far prefer a People's Vote based on what we know now, besides which, living as I do in a constituency with a pro-Brexit Tory ( in fact, one of John Major's 'bastards'), my vote would count for nothing. Only with a People's vote would I be able to register my opinion, and not have it engulfed by the ERG supporting MP that I am saddled with.

The QT audience is not self selected.

Large numbers of people apply to be in the audience and they are selected by Alison Fuller Pedley, a former UKIP member, who has done this job for over twenty years and in spite of sharing Facebook posts by the far right group "Britain First" has not been sacked.

She also ‘liked’ a page called “British Patriotic Front”. Both Facebook pages carry extreme racist and ultra-British nationalist content.

Fuller-Pedley’s job gives her responsibility over organising the participating audience for the programme.

www.commonspace.scot/articles/10001/bbc-reprimands-question-time-producer-over-far-right-social-media-posts

Judging by the Question Time audience last night the majority of people aren't as enamoured with the LibDems as you are.

I wouldn't blame the BBC as you do Varian but I would agree it is a very small sample, and a self-selected one. A very poor example to use to tell us what the majority think petra.

Emma Thornberry has said 'The Lib Dems have gotten kind of Taliban, haven't they?
'They've said they're just going to revoke, there's not going to be another referendum.”

Or maybe the Lib Dem’s are ‘the most dangerous party’ because Jo Swinson has stated categorically that she WILL have her way over Brexit.
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The only thing you could judge by last night's QT audience petra is that the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation and their UKIP supporting QT "audience selector* Alison Fuller Pedley, have excelled the.selves in ensuring that the reasonable wish to stop the brexit madness was virtually unrepresented.

Ed Davey was the only voice of reason on the panel and as for the framing of the question about the LibDems being " the most dangerous party in Britain"- it takes the BBC's blatant pro-brexit ias to a whole new level.

I think Jo Swinson has jumped upon the one trick pony which is "revoke Article 50"

(There is footage from 2008 of her in the H of Cs demanding an in/out referendum)

Varian
Judging by the Question Time audience last night the majority of people aren't as enamoured with the LibDems as you are.
I would say most voters now see right through Jo Swinson.

The Lib Dems’ projected vote proportion in an Ipsos MORI poll is 23%. with the Tories leading on 33%. and Labour in second place on 24%.

Varian.

I think people on GN who unfairly say Mr Corbyn is weak don't see the full picture. He has been attacked by right wing billionaire press for four years. An independent research has found that he is unfairly portrayed in MSM nearly all of the time so not given an equal chance Also there are other sources too, paid online trolls, excetra You have to think to yourself why? He would upset the status quo the neoliberalism the establishment. Jeremy Corbyn was once asked how do you cope with the stress of constantly coming under attack?
He said it is the poor those on zero hours contract those in work poverty, on poverty wages the children hungry, food banks that's what real stress is. (The press would be properly regulated, as they are not a trusted source of news, Impliment Leveson) He can't be bought, how refreshing Is that? Unlike some polititions I could mention, naming no names.

Mr Corbyn is out meeting people talking to them finding out what's needed. Rallies up and down the country. He was awarded two peace prizes you don't get that be sitting around doing nothing.

That's why thousands of younger people have joined and campaign for a Labour government because they can see through the MSM lies and are not fooled. The Labour party is a socialist Democratic Party they have a transformative manifesto that is fully costed properly thought out.

I back Labour I don't want to keep on about it but got to speak out about this.

Here is

The World Transformed. theworldtransformed.org/
Four days of politics arts and music festival running alongside the Labour Conference at Brighton

There is far more to politics than brexit. It has got in the way of all the more important things for the last three and a half years and needs to be stopped.

Jo Swinson has only been LD leader for a short time. She was elected by members after a very good natured contest with Ed Davey, who is now the shadow chancellor and deputy leader. They have made a great start and have certainly not told any lies, unlike BJ who is a habitual liar and has been sacked for lying more than once.

I take it, Grany that you are a supporter either of Farage or Corbyn, the extremists of right and left . Little to chose between them.

There is more to politics than Brexit.
Considering her voting record and the Tories I wouldn't expect much. Two worst leaders the dreadful Swinson liar and Johnson

It's ok we all choose who to vote for.

These are the people with the most influence on our politics

I know you are right GGMK3. The reason for "conference bounce" is of course related to the greater amount of publicity at that time. The Liberal Democrats have always suffered from being marginalised in the media.

The right wing press never mentions the party unless it can find some sort of negative angle to report and there are other newspapers which will always support Labour.

We also have much less funding as we have never had the wealthy donors that fund the Tories or the Unions which support Labour.

In addition it is extrordinarly difficult for a party whose support is widespread both demographically and geographically to take seats from parties which only promote the interests of people in concentrated areas.

However the next election is likely to be held in exceptional circumstances, so we can only hope that voters will look at the two broken parties with their dreadful leaders and decide to depart from their usual habit and this time vote for the genuine good of the whole country.

So many people want brexit to be over and allowing it to happen, in any form, would not be the end of it but only the beginning. Vote LibDem and Stop Brexit

A new wave of liberal populism is ripping through Remainia, and Jo Swinson has decided that her party should ride it.

Don't get too excited Varian, there is always a bounce after a conference. LDs have their bounce, LP yet to have their conference

Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention tracker

"If there were a general election held tomorrow, which party would you vote for? %"

Con 32% LibDem 23% Labour 21% Brex 14% Other 6% Green 4% Ukip 1%

Liberal Democrats overtake Labour!

This poll was taken on 17th and 18th September so it looks as if the Liberal Democrat policy on brexit is proving popular.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/09/19/political-trackers-17-18-sept-update

I think it is an entirely reasonable course for the LDs to take, in a GE. Just as it is a reasonable course for the Brexit Party PLC to say, in their manifesto that they would take us out.

LibDem Party policy is not decided by the leader but by ordinar members, the overwhelming majority approve the policy. It is true that a small number of LibDems did vote leave in 2016 (It was a smaller % than in any other party). Many of these have now changed their minds.

It looks pretty certain that the next general election will be before any new referendum and will therefore be totally dominated by the issues of brexit. Everyone will be quite clear on the stance of the LibDems as the strongest party of Remain and vote accordingly.

Totally agree newnanny, Jo Swinson is a disgrace.
Her whole campaign now centres around revoking article 50, she seems to be ignoring the fact that quite a few of her own party are in favour of leaving the EU.
What an extreme woman she is - power at any cost! comes to mind. I am so disappointed with her.
What a bunch of dictators our party leaders are becoming.