Liberal Democrats

This is yet a nother thread that I will ask the same question.

Why should the constituents in Wollastons constituency not be allowed to have ' their say' , hold a 2nd vote now their circumstances have changed?

It is another case of an MP who won her seat on a Manifesto that she obviously never agreed with gaining the position of MP on false pretences it would appear.

The mantra of the Lib Dems and those MP's who now sit as Independents who demand a 2nd Refefendum/Peoples Vote has been :-

' The circumstances have changed, we now know more about the situation, we were told lies, we must let the people decide if they still feel the same etc. etc. etc.'

Hypocritical they don't feel that applies to them and their constituents should not even have a voice.

Sorry but the joke about the Lib Dems should be called the Oxymoron Party has a certain ring of truth about it on so many levels.

I think someone who doesn’t blindly go where their party leads them but acts with integrity is a distinct asset. The i word is definitely unfashionable now.

You really think someone who has joined her third party in a year is an asset?

S Woolaston is such a 'flip-flopper' she probably can't decide if today's Thursday!

I had a look at her history on Wikipedia. She voted for the Referendum Bill and originally was for Brexit, then changed her mind. She supported the remain side in 2016. However, her constituents voted 54% to leave. She therefore should never stood as a Tory in the 2017 election because the manifesto she stood on said the result of the referendum would be honoured and we would leave the EU, no mention of a deal.

Then she joined the odious Soubry at Change UK, not a very good judgement! And now she has joined the Lib Dems.

When challenged this morning as to why she wouldn't resign her seat, she hedged her answer saying she would do that if there is a GE.

In other words, she does not have the honour to allow the good, Brexit voting people of Totnes a chance to vote on her flip-flopping & her attempts to bring down her former party.

Swinson was whipped to vote with her party in a coalition government that ended more than four years ago. Digging up old history isn’t going to help us now.

I did wonder how long it would be before we got the predictable SNP attack on Jo Swinson, who regained her seat in East Dumbartonshire from the SNP at the last election.

Phew! Yet another credible LibDem MP. Good news.

Even a coalition with theLib Dems and tories wont make a difference,Swinson voted for every Vile Tory policy in her time in Westminster ,what makes you think she's likely to do it differently next time?

Great news. We need a strong concerted opposition to Brexit and this No Deal nonsense!

I so hope Anna will follow suite.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/08/sarah-wollaston-joins-liberal-democrats-coup-jo-swinson

Sarah Wollaston joins the Liberal Democrats in coup for Jo Swinson.
The defection is win-win for the Liberal Democrats.

Sarah Wollaston, the MP for Totnes who left the Conservative Party to form Change UK, has joined the Liberal Democrats.

It is a major coup for Jo Swinson and her party: it guarantees a day of positive news coverage and the biggest problem parties outside the big two face, in addition to the United Kingdom’s electoral system, is simply getting any coverage.

As I wrote when Chuka Umunna made the same journey a few months back, the more coverage, the more support that minor parties pick up, the more support they receive outside of election time the more likely they are to be able to seriously build on an increased “resting level” of support. (

It’s an added coup for the Liberal Democrats in that of the three Change founders who sit for seats the party has a semi-plausible chance of winning, they have now coaxed two out of the three into the fold. Wollaston, like Umunna, sits for a constituency that the party came close to winning in 2010 though, as with Umunna’s Streatham constituency they have fallen back their at a parliamentary level. And, as with Streatham, they did well in the constituency in the 2019 European and general elections. Of the remaining independent MPs, only Heidi Allen’s South Cambridgeshire seat, is a particularly viable target for the Liberal Democrats at an election, although a sitting MP always boosts the hopes of taking the seat as they have the benefit of incumbency and the powers of holding office.

Even if they can’t hold these seats at a general election, the Liberal Democrats will be near-certain to improve their standing and their longterm prospects of picking up these constituencies in the future.

Party strategists will be hopeful that they may be able to add Allen by defection and Laura Gordon in Sheffield Hallam – if, that is, this parliament runs for long enough

Stephen Bush writing in the New Statesman