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varian Thu 15-Aug-19 08:14:17

Dr Sarah Woolaston MP has joined the Libera Democrats. Great news!

varian Fri 22-Nov-19 13:44:42

The LibDems aim to restore our democracy which was so badly corrupted by the fraudulent referendum and all that led up to it. Do not let Putin win. Stop brexit.

Chestnut Fri 22-Nov-19 13:36:23

The Liberal Undemocrats will not be getting my vote. They are trying to destroy democracy.

varian Fri 22-Nov-19 12:39:36

More good reasons to vote LibDem

www.libdems.org.uk/top-manifesto-steps

varian Wed 20-Nov-19 18:52:33

We need the EU citizens who have contributed so much to our society and our economy

www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/11/ed-davey-exposes-awkward-truth-about-free-movement-and-infrastructure

Chestnut Wed 20-Nov-19 18:42:17

Remainers still living in cloud cuckoo land as usual. We live in a democracy (or so I thought) and yet you want to vote for the most undemocratic party of all, who curiously have the name Liberal Democrats and who want to just ignore the referendum result completely. I can't even believe there are such people!

varian Wed 20-Nov-19 18:21:11

Brilliant election manifesto from the Liberal Democrats. We can do so much more if we stop brexit.

www.libdems.org.uk/plan

Urmstongran Wed 20-Nov-19 11:38:55

Jo Swinson said last night she’d use the nuclear button.

Nicola Sturgeon has said it was “sickening” to hear Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem leader, say last night that she would be willing to use a nuclear weapon.

varian Wed 20-Nov-19 11:27:13

What's this gibberish?

MaizieD Wed 20-Nov-19 11:26:07

I'm sure that many people will not have a clue what you're talking about, Ug

I do know about the squirrels because I saw it on twitter. It was a completely fake story.

But 'mankind'? I'm baffled

(But, of course, you do thoroughly research anything that you post on here, don't you?)

Urmstongran Wed 20-Nov-19 11:06:28

Crikey

Jo first it's the squirrels
Now it's mankind

?

varian Tue 19-Nov-19 14:57:25

Jo Swinson was the most warmly received of the party leaders to appear on stage at the CBI’s annual conference, as the Liberal Democrat leader’s unwavering commitment to remaining in the EU proved popular with business delegates.

As leaders did their best to promote their policies to the business community prior to the general election on 12 December, the audience’s reaction to both Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn was lukewarm at best.

The prime minister’s promise that his “oven-ready” Brexit deal would end the uncertainty over Britain’s relationship with the EU found favour with many of the business leaders gathered, but there was also despair at the move toward extremes by both main political parties.

Randle Slatter, the finance director of Clearsprings, a provider of accommodation to asylum seekers under contract from the Home Office, said he shared the view of the CBI director general, Carolyn Fairbairn, about the ideological shift to the extremes by both parties. He said the prospect of leaving the EU without a deal next December was his main worry. “We have to remain closely connected to the EU for trade. That is essential.”

Slatter said he was supporting the Liberal Democrats after having taken a long look at Labour. “Jeremy Corbyn is a decent man, it’s the people around him and the Momentum group that I find a problem,” he said.

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/nov/18/jo-swinson-best-reception-cbi-conference-lib-dems-pro-eu-stance

varian Tue 19-Nov-19 14:00:53

I was pleased to hear Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipaedia, say on Politics Live today that he did not intend to watch the tv debate between Corbyn and Johnson.

He would be boycotting it in protest that Jo Swinson was not included.

This so-called debate between two leavers should be boycotted by every one of the 50 million people in the UK who did not vote for brexit.

varian Mon 18-Nov-19 20:23:09

Lib Dems and SNP lose high court bid over TV election debate

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/18/lib-dems-and-snp-lose-high-court-bid-over-tv-election-debate

This is utterly shameful. It has been proven that these first TV leaders debates give a huge advantage to the participants.

Why is Jo Swinson excluded in 2019 when her predecessot Nick Clegg was included in 2010???>?:

varian Mon 18-Nov-19 19:11:54

This afternoon Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson addressed the Confederation of British Industry.

Having heard Tory and Labour leaders, they were eager to hear from a party which supports British Industry and agrees with the CBI that we should stop brexit.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nTEjranPHg

varian Mon 18-Nov-19 10:44:47

The policy is to control "running costs" but to borrow to invest for the future. Fortunately if we stop brexit we will be much better able to do both.

MaizieD Mon 18-Nov-19 10:07:24

They're just locking in the myth that tax revenue funds expenditure.

If you inherited a company that was struggling because of lack of investment you would not expect to fund the investment needed to bring it back to profitability out of its meagre profits (it's a struggling company, don't forget). There wouldn't be enough money to do it. You would borrow to invest in measures that would restore it to health.

Governments which run a sovereign currency don't even need to borrow, they can 'create' money to invest in the country. That's where £240+ billion of quantitative easing came from after the bankers' crash, the fall in the pound after the EU Referendum and May's £1 billion bribe to the DUP. Most of the invested money comes back to the government by way of tax.

The Lib Dem's policy locks us into only spending what we have. As a significant amount of this will go abroad through the purchase of resources from other countries, or into offshore tax havens as some companies and individuals squirrel away their profits where the tax man can't get hold of them, or into personal savings, then the available supply of money from tax revenue diminishes, thus (if you really want to believe that taxation funds spending) leaving less and less available for state spending.

Result? Cuts and austerity...

Elegran Mon 18-Nov-19 09:37:38

And "Sir Ed said the party would raise spending, for example on childcare, but would balance it out by a rise in corporation taxes and capital gains tax. He added: "You can still meet fiscal rules and be economically responsible, and make important environmental, social and economic investments. You just have to be honest about where the money's coming from. So on the revenue side we've talked about a Remain bonus, but we've also talked about modest tax rises."

Elegran Mon 18-Nov-19 09:36:01

I think what he actually said was "the Lib Dems would run a 1 per cent surplus on current spending - meaning that day-to-day costs of public services would be lower than the amount raised in taxes"

The Lib Dems also said "they could work with a minority government led by Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn on an "issue by issue" but ruled out a formal coalition or confidence and supply pact."

Grany Mon 18-Nov-19 09:10:28

The Lib Dems still back Austerity when asked about this Swinson in an interview saying we have to tighten our belts. So not a party to back to help Britain on its feet again after 10 years of punishing Austerity.

As far as this Brexit is concerned Labour have said that they will put it to the people with remain as an option.

See here. Would you vote for this?

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/11/17/the-libdems-are-promoting-the-most-hard-right-neoliberal-callously-indifferent-economic-agenda-of-any-mainstream-party-in-this-election/

varian Sun 17-Nov-19 17:17:04

This is rubbish. If you are interested in the LibDems economic policy here is the text of Ed Davey's speech

www.libdemvoice.org/in-full-ed-daveys-speech-on-the-economy-62642.html

Whitewavemark2 Sun 17-Nov-19 16:39:13

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/11/17/the-libdems-are-promoting-the-most-hard-right-neoliberal-callously-indifferent-economic-agenda-of-any-mainstream-party-in-this-election/

I’m sad to read this, but I think it all stems from Swinson. This isnt what the libs should be about

varian Fri 15-Nov-19 19:44:38

It is time we heard the truth about free movement of labour in the EU

www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/11/ed-davey-exposes-awkward-truth-about-free-movement-and-infrastructure

varian Thu 14-Nov-19 15:08:38

Today @ChukaUmunna and @lucianaberger laid out our vision of how to build a #BrighterFuture where everyone’s rights and liberties are protected.

twitter.com/LibDems/status/1194972814207541248?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Grany Thu 14-Nov-19 14:05:16

Yes Urmstongran We all know that New Labour Blair tripled PFI not good I agree

But Socialist Labour under Corbyn is a different matter. They will save our NHS from privatisation and properly fund it.

Urmstongran Thu 14-Nov-19 13:53:28

And saving our NHS proper funding. Only Labour will save our NHS

Oh Grany it was Liebour who introduced the Private Finance Initiative which repayment costs have crippled NHS Trusts - some Trusts now spend 20% of their budget on their loans!!