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raising pension age

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grandtanteJE65 Sun 18-Aug-19 11:47:16

70 is definitely not practicable if working in a manual job, or even if teaching primary school.

It is however the "new" pension age for most people all over Europe now. Our generation can still retire earlier - I could at 67, my husband will be able to at the same age, but our children will have to work until they are 70.

The politicians go on and on about the fact that we live longer and that there are fewer working age people to support us. They totally ignore the fact that we have contributed to our OAP ourselves and that there are millions of young people between 20 and 30 who don't have a hope of getting a job.

It would make sense to let more people retire early and get the young in work, but by now we have all stopped looking for sense from politicians, haven't we?

Blinko Sun 18-Aug-19 11:46:19

70 or 75 is not practical if working in a manual/physical job.

I agree totally.

I worked till I was 64 in an office job, part time for the final two years, and still felt knackered. I know I was one of the lucky ones at that.

Surely what's needed is the approach taken in some countries in Europe, where you can wind down to retirement, gradually decreasing your hours.

I'm unsure if/how this would be supported perhaps by the State Pension coming in in stages during the final working years.

A radical rethink is needed, not just whacking up the pension age willy nilly.

arosebyanyothername Sun 18-Aug-19 11:45:48

I'm lucky that I only had to wait an extra 9 months for my pension but I have many friends who have had to wait a darn sight longer!!
My younger sister had to wait much longer and didn't have time 'enjoy' it before she died. Same goes for a dear friend who died this week aged 63 sad
Bl**dy shameful

maryhoffman37 Sun 18-Aug-19 11:37:17

I am 74 and still working but I am in a sedentary "brain job" and work from home. It appalls me to think of this as a overal age limit, as if everyone were as fortunate as me. As another Gransnetter said above, it is simply not feasible for workers in manual jobs, without whom the country would soon collapse. And what about people with progressive illnesses and Alzheimers and other conditions affecting the ability to work? I honestly despair at the cruelty and selfishness of this government.

hulahoop Sun 18-Aug-19 11:35:40

These. people like Ian Duncan smith live in a different world it's time we stopped paying out money to Royal family for upgrades to homes they have enough of our money as it is ,same goes to the Lords who do nothing but go and sit in the House and get paid for the privilege . I was lucky I only had to work an extra 2 years before getting my state pension I really feel for you what have to work more it's disgusting . Rant over

Urmstongran Sun 18-Aug-19 11:31:47

I’m 65y next week.

Only another 11 months and I can have my state pension.

Bluddy disgrace.

Thanks Clegg. You managed to alienate the young ‘uns because of uni fees and your wheeze to promote austerity and delight your coalition partners has annoyed us oldies too!

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EllanVannin Sun 18-Aug-19 11:30:15

This is knowing that a good few will have died by then thus no need for extra spending on a pension.

We who live well beyond such an age must be viewed with contempt particularly when at 80 the winter fuel allowance increases.

What an abominable way to treat 11 million of our citizens !

TrendyNannie6 Sun 18-Aug-19 11:27:45

Totally agree with chewbacca I’m also convinced the government is raising the retirement age hoping that a good load of us never reach the moving of goal posts we’ll im a long way off my retirement age makes me really cross I was looking forward to getting my bus pass but no they’ve moved it pfft

MissAdventure Sun 18-Aug-19 11:21:26

I feel clapped out now with the weight of responsibility put on me by childcare, working, keeping up with all that needs doing.

I won't make it to 75 in any fit shape, if at all!

Chewbacca Sun 18-Aug-19 11:15:49

lost should read "post on Mumsnet".

Chewbacca Sun 18-Aug-19 11:14:42

I'm convinced that the government is slowly, but surely, fading outstate retirement pensions and is hoping that we will all die whilst working and never actually reach their ever moving goal posts. Interestingly, there were lost on Mumsnet her recently about this subject and the vast majority of posts there felt that anyone under the age of 50 now would never live to receive a state pension.

I'm in the exact same position as Paddyann, 65 and still no pension. angry

Whitewavemark2 Sun 18-Aug-19 11:02:32

It is the same think tank that created UC with IDS as its spokesperson.

We know how well that is going don’t we?

Successfully caused misery for the poorest “undeserving”

Now considering giving misery to the “unproductive”

Life can only get worse under the Hard right.

paddyann Sun 18-Aug-19 11:01:24

I had a post on my FB page , a letter from DWP ,it stated that the NI fund had been in credit(I cant rememeber the exact figure) something like 24Billion pounds which was being sent to help pay the national debt.I'll see if I can find it and post it here.

Aren't we all delighted that we've paid for all those years so we can help out an incompetent government!!? Not me I'm afraid I was 65 in March and STILL no pension .I've been working for 50 years .Yet they can find money to give the royals for house refurbs and extra millions ofr Lizzie ...makes me sick .I have a friend who is really struggling because of the delay in her pension .What a bloody country!

quizqueen Sun 18-Aug-19 11:00:07

Theresa lost her majority at the last election when the Tories suggested people sold their homes to pay for in home care (keeping £100,000) so they would be really stupid to talk about raising the state age to this extent.
Resources are being stretched in this country because there are too many people living here ( and too many people on the planet, in general) and that is what needs to be tackled.

On the bright side, Meghan and Harry only intend to have two children so there will fewer Royal spongers going down their line!!!!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 18-Aug-19 10:59:55

70 or 75 is not practical if working in a manual/physical job.

I am still fuming at being a “waspi”

Caledonai14 Sun 18-Aug-19 10:48:22

It seems a strange time to promote this when so many of us are worried about the effects of no-deal Brexit and the financial uncertainty that wafts around us like the unwanted stench of a bad toilet.

My own thoughts are unrepeatable on a polite website, but I'm guessing this is - at best - a diversionary tactic from the omnishambolic Brexit and - - at worst - sneaking in a genuine proposal while we are all suffering crisis fatigue and our politicians are off on their jollies and preparing for the conference season instead of recalling Parliament.

Thoughts, anyone?

Caledonai14 Sun 18-Aug-19 10:48:02

A think tank called the Centre for Social Justice, headed by Iain Duncan Smith, is proposing that the state pension age be raised to 70 by 2018 and 75 by 2034.

Five newspapers are reporting this but I can only find one which does not have the story behind a paywall so apologies to those GNers who dislike the Daily Mail as a source, but it is backed up in four other places and looks very much like a softening-up story so that we Waspis/Backto 60s will start to think we were the lucky ones confused.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367909/State-pension-age-raised-75-16-years-according-Ian-Duncan-Smiths-think-tank.html