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Does anyone know what Boris intends to do about the Irish border if he gets his no deal?

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Gonegirl Fri 30-Aug-19 11:03:14

Surely some things will still be imported from the EU.

Does he really not give a toss about NI's fragile peace. Is he really so hell-bent only with keeping in with Trump?

THAT is worrying.

annep1 Fri 30-Aug-19 20:30:22

Growstuff you still haven't explained why you would knock Protestant heads together.

growstuff Fri 30-Aug-19 20:28:53

No, it doesn't all have to come from somewhere because a considerable amount came back to the UK in grants. Not only that, but trade between countries could increase, as the UK is no longer part of the equation.

German car exports to the UK are already suffering since the UK's increase in road tax for high emissions cars. That has little to do with the EU, but internal problems in the German automotive industry. It's also why Germany is investing heavily in battery technology for electric cars.

annep1 Fri 30-Aug-19 20:28:31

Last comment should read BTW it's not Aileen.

annep1 Fri 30-Aug-19 20:25:26

Kircubbin I wouldnt bother trying to explain to be honest.
As for the assembly. I think its wrong that MLAs who want to work should lose their salary through no fault of their own.
And I have no intention of getting into a discussion here.

growstuff Fri 30-Aug-19 20:24:46

kircubbin I'm not against Protestants (or Catholics for that matter). I could have written the same about Sinn Fein, but the discussion was about the DUP - and I stand by what I think of the DUP "brand".

Farmor15 Fri 30-Aug-19 20:16:28

Teetime Taoiseach is pronounced theeshock - the T is between t and th. He’s prime minister. Elected president is equivalent to Queen in terms of role - officially head of state but not political.

Unfortunately, the Irish border was never properly discussed pre- Brexit referendum and most British politicians don’t understand it. There’s been vague mention of technological solutions but no-one has actually come up with one.

kircubbin2000 Fri 30-Aug-19 20:01:29

Most protestants don't support the DUP. We lead normal lives just like you. What we are up against are British hating Sinn Fein who block any agreement by wanting to spend thousands translating documents into Irish which few speak. They will change road signs etc into Irish too. What a waste of money when schools and hospitals suffer.Dup are as bad.They will never agree but continue to take their salaries.

annep1 Fri 30-Aug-19 20:01:17

BTE it's not Aileen.

annep1 Fri 30-Aug-19 19:59:11

Growstuff I was born a Protestant in Northern Ireland.
I have lived all my life here and still suffer the effects of living with terrorism.
I find your remark extremely offensive.. Perhaps you would care to explain.
I'm surprised that your comment hasnt been deleted.

lemongrove Fri 30-Aug-19 19:51:39

I didn’t say the EU needed us to survive, but......they will certainly miss our cash contributions as we and France and Germany were the biggest contributors to the EU coffers.
That money will have to come from somewhere.

growstuff Fri 30-Aug-19 19:38:28

Why is it?

The EU is group of 27 countries, who have been making contingency plans for months. They're available on the European Commission website for all to read.

The UK represents a small percentage of EU trade. The EU doesn't need the UK to survive. If you believe that, you were sold a pup.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Aug-19 17:58:28

lemon would be genuinely interested in your reply about the backstop.

lemongrove Fri 30-Aug-19 17:29:11

Of course it’s in the EU’s interests to get a deal!! ????

lemongrove Fri 30-Aug-19 17:27:18

As am I growstuff.

growstuff Fri 30-Aug-19 17:13:19

I'm entitled to my opinion (as GNers are fond of saying when people disagree with them).

growstuff Fri 30-Aug-19 17:11:54

Why do you think we will get a deal?

As things stand, it's not in the EU's interests to give the UK any kind of deal now. They are better off letting us go WTO and taking the economic hit on the chin.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Aug-19 17:09:59

lemon unclear that you are clear what the backstop means.

If you are clear perhaps you can tell us how that reconciles with your statement about getting a deal?

lemongrove Fri 30-Aug-19 17:04:23

Ironic really!

lemongrove Fri 30-Aug-19 17:03:58

growstuff
What a bigoted post from you about Protestants in NI.

lemongrove Fri 30-Aug-19 17:01:56

Teetime ?I always remember it as teashop.brew

Davidhs has given good answers to this question, but nobody knows at the moment how things will go so impossible to answer.
I think we will get a deal, something that Parliament will at long last accept ( possibly gratefully.)

growstuff Fri 30-Aug-19 17:01:21

So what?

I don't. I think they're narrow-minded bigots.

Why "Oo eck".

POGS Fri 30-Aug-19 16:58:09

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Grammaretto Fri 30-Aug-19 16:34:41

Having just driven across the border in both directions in the past week I know it would be a terribly backwards step to reinstate a border.
Now at the border there are placards pleading for no hard border on the NI side.
The only other sign I noticed is that 50km signs change to mph. Oh and a few union flags in Enniskillen.

When I was last there in the 90s it was very different in the north. The police stations were surrounded in barbed wire and had high lookout towers.
We just wanted to get through as fast as we could.

Fennel Fri 30-Aug-19 16:17:24

Thanks mostlyharmless for that link.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Aug-19 16:12:19

If anyone thinks that it will be as simple as establishing a border either in the sea or indeed doing nothing, but watching as the border between the EU and the U.K. is established in Ireland, then they do not understand the danger a border of any sort poses. Violence is already on the increase. NI voted to remain, because the voters understood the very great danger of being landed back to the times of the “troubles”.

They voted to keep themselves alive.