The family firm.

I have taken 3 of my 4 DGC to their first day at school and have never, ever know a teacher/manager greet them by shaking their hands and/or curtsying . Obviously my DGC are ordinary children going to an ordinary primary . Not little princes or princesses .

There's a difference between greeting children in a classroom and going out into the yard to shake hands with them. Or perhaps you don't recognise that, No nursery nurse or TA for me in reception, I had the lot on my own. I did have NN's in the nursery class. They were stars. We used to have a boy brought to us from reception when he started destroying the classroom. He could be charming, was very clever but lost it regularly.

Enjoy the singing annep.

You are absolutely correct Easybee, I always greeted each child individually as they entered the classroom, either at the door or as they came to sit on the mat. Nursery nurse (I was lucky in both Nursery and Reception classes, I always had a nursery nurse and usually a TA as well) would either greet at the door or on the mat as well. We then had register when I would say ‘good morning’ to each child as well and ‘good afternoon’ in the afternoon session. We are teaching very young children good manners in the EYs and greetings are an important part of that. My classes ranged from 25 to 35 children Easybee, thankfully only 30 children are allowed in EYs and KS1 now.
Incidentally, I didn’t shake hands with the children, I greeted each one verbally. One member of staff would always do that even if there was a ‘screamer.’

Yes it's hard to say nothing GG13. Sorry phone needs charged. Can't say much. Off to relaxing male voice choir. I need it!?

eazybee I know a lot about reception classes and how they differ from school to school I must have seen about 15 different schools in my teaching career, all coped with reception in different ways. Some had staggered intakes (and didn't the mums complain if their child was one of the last to go full time!). Some didn't. Some had part timers for the first weeks some didn't. I must have seen over 20 different reception teachers in my time and none shook hands with every child. When I had reception I found bringing in the children whose parents didn't want to stay and who thought they should just give you a screaming child, because he was school age and your problem now, enough to cope with. If your children shook hands you were lucky. Some of the ones I had were more inclined to give you a kick.

Trisher, you don't know very much about Reception class if you don't realise that the teacher does greet each child individually on their first day; I certainly did and my classes ranged from twenty-five to thirty eight children. Of course, the Press was not there to record it.
You are expressing your opinion about the monarchy, to which you are perfectly entitled, but stop trying to justify it by dragging in the prorogation of Parliament.
And just think, if you didn't have the monarchy you could have Bercow and his dreadful wife assuming their role, because whenever a monarchy is deposed, those in power rush to fill their position and assume their privileges.

annepl I agree, I have tried hard to avoid this thread but it got the better of me.

I'm glad someone agrees maddyone
It's not what I expected on GN.
Disappointing.

I agree with you annep.

maddyone could you stop giving out information everyone knows . You brought up the issue of protecting the public at royal events. It's nothing to do with the personal protection the RF receive. Which is what I am complaining about.

At the minute I am following this thread and another about obesity both of which have become unpleasant.
It seems to me that quite often GNetters can't actually disagree nicely and have to become rude and sarcastic.
I don't think you would disagree with your real life friends in this way.

I honestly don't see the value of spending time like this.

trisher I suggest you ask Sadiq Khan the useless Mayor of London, who has been challenged this week by London Assembly Members for spending more money on "vanity projects" and the like than the inner city problems.

The royals have personal protection officers who are one step behind them. The police who line the streets at royal events are there for the general public.

The detectives and officers who follow the RF around are not there to protect the public and should there be even a whiff of a terrorist attack or a bomb don't imagine they would be looking after any of us. Their remit would be to get their charge out of there asap and let the rest of the public take their chances.

So what should be done GG13 let them get on with it because they aren't killing white people? Personally I'd rather fund proper protection and care for black teenagers than fund protection for rich individuals who just happen to be related to the monarch. They can afford to fund their own.

That’s it, the race card is been flourished, now black inner city teenagers are more at risk that white inner city teenagers .

Yes maddy a little tot starting school and it’s brought out envy and lectures on who built Windsor Castle

I agree GrannyGravy, we all have protection where it is deemed there might be a risk. Think about the security at airports, security when entering certain public buildings such as museums, once when I was on a cross channel ferry there were armed to the teeth police and army moving around the ferry the whole six hour trip (as that’s unusual we assumed there must have been some intelligence to suggest a risk) and so on. Security and protection is provided for everyone as it is deemed necessary. The security at such events as royal weddings isn’t just for the couple, it’s for the crowds who are at risk from idiots who think it would be a good idea to detonate a bomb or open fire on the public. Security is for everyone.

trisher, black inner city teenagers carry knives, the higher up in the gang you are the bigger the knives.

It is the "elephant in the room" black on black crime fuelled by gangs and now "County lines" drug culture, something entirely different.

It doesn’t matter whether she owns BP at all Maddyone but the fact remains that it is a home and it’s one of the homes that her Maj has available to her .

If that is to be considered an argument GG13 then the obvious candidates for real protection, because their lives are more at risk are black inner city male teenagers. As they don't have the resources to fund their own protection that would seem a better use of public money and the rich can fund their own protection.

Why do we have extra security at concerts, in public places, why do we have security bollards across major bridges in London, why do we have armed police in shopping malls?

Because there are evil sick ideologists who believe if they kill others they will be rewarded in the after life, because we have people on drugs who go out and kill, because we have criminals who think kidnapping someone of wealth is a route to easy money.

That is why they need protection and for the small amount per head of population it costs I cannot see what the prop is.

As far as I am concerned if you want to bring the argument back to the child starting school that's fine. I too have taught many different types of children and many ages. I actually had reception for a bit. My GCs are now in a primary school. I have yet to see a reception teacher have the time to greet each child with an individual handshake (curtsey or not). With 30 odd children it would take over half an hour to cover the whole class. But actually I don't see why either William or Kate or their children should be afforded any special treatment. Let them live in a big house if they wish, let them send their children to private school if they want to. But why should we pay for their protection and afford them any sort of obeisance simply because of who his Granny is?

maddyone agreed.

GG13 they are quite entitled to their opinion what they are not entitled to do is to attribute my opposition to a monarchy to 'jealousy'. If they fail to recognise the very real argument against a monarchy I can only assume a lack of knowledge.

Annie, you’ve brought us back to the beginning, the first day at school for one little four year old girl. I was a teacher, I taught Reception classes (among other year groups) and I taught in a variety of schools. I cared about all the children I taught. Some of the schools I taught in catered for middle class families, others I taught in catered for some very deprived children. In all the schools the majority of the parents cared about their children, just as Charlotte’s parents care about her. As a teacher, you care about the child in front of you, regardless of their background (assuming no abuse etc) and you do your best for them all. This is how this whole discussion started, a little girl’s first day at school.