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morethan2 Sat 14-Sept-19 17:35:07

Before I start I’ll nail my colours to a mast I voted remain. I’m not thrilled with the result but I accept it. I’m a little anxious about all the information of a no deal brexit and I expect most remainers are. I don’t want to start a bun fight but are those of you who voted out are you concerned about a no deal exit? I’m not asking for reassurance just if you feel very confident about the outcome of a no deal.

Nannan2 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:51:46

If only 37% voted to leave carlyD7,how are we leaving then? I thought it had to be a democracy of 'more out than in' so to speak?

grannygranby Sun 15-Sept-19 10:47:39

Some people think that if ‘we get on with it’ it will all be over. Oh dear. That’s when the problems and hardship will start. The Leave campaign has targeted people’s emotions and not their brains. Because emotions always win. It is a tragedy. It’s a tough battle the Remainers are fighting for all of us. I hope and trust they win. They will be reviled. More fool those that would be led by the likes of Farage and Johnson and Rees- Mogg. you only have to look at those leading the campaigns to know whose side you are on.

orly Sun 15-Sept-19 10:44:54

I'm only scared by what this country has become over the last 3 years+ since the vote to Leave. MPs from all parties trying to stymie the will of the people or actively trying to overturn the result and now the courts/judges in Scotland and England making a ruling that the suspension of parliament was NOT illegal followed by appeals to both declaring it IS illegal so another couple of appeals to finally put it to bed (hopefull). Who is right? Who can we trust? If we'd just used USwitch to pull us out of the EU in 2016, just like I've done with my dual fuel supplier 3 times in the same period, we'd be over any short-term hiccups by now and much better off.

Babs758 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:41:14

I voted to remain but am happy to leave with a deal. I do understand people’s reasons for wanting to leave but still personally felt that we would be better off in Europe. I am Interested to know amongst those of you who voted to leave, are you happy to leave without a deal?

Btw I live not too far from Guildford!

Nannan2 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:38:50

Way to go Tricia5!

icanhandthemback Sun 15-Sept-19 10:37:51

I voted leave and I would vote leave again in another Referendum. Of course I am nervous, it's a big jump. I didn't vote leave because of immigration but I don't want to remain within the EU in it's current form. It is an inefficient organisation with the masters working for their vision, not the vision of the people. There are lots of things that are good about the Union but the cumbersome nature of it with so much money literally disappearing makes me think we need a rethink.
That said, another reason I wanted to leave was for our Parliament to be in control of our destiny. That appears to be my biggest mistake. We've given the EU all our bargaining chips and then wonder why they don't feel the need to have reopened negotiations months ago. What a shambles.

Alexa Sun 15-Sept-19 10:33:51

I think I have just enough income to tide me over, plus I think I can adjust my cooking and diet if the shortages come along. I do realise that its the poorest people who will suffer most.

The people who will suffer most are those who depend on carers and those who depend on food banks, prisoners, and hospital patients. It is easy to find oneself in those situations.

Margaux Sun 15-Sept-19 10:33:28

4allweknow My experience is different. I remember people like IDs saying that we could leave with a good trade deal.

Nannan2 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:33:28

Typo- meant 'thats being confident',(apologies)

Dottynan Sun 15-Sept-19 10:33:00

CarlyD7 by your reckoning the percentage voted to stay must be less than those who voted to leave. With leave hanging over our heads we are now 4th strongest economy in the world.

Nannan2 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:30:55

If we HAD gone along with descision to change our money to euros can you imagine how difficult it would be for the younger generations now to revert back to pounds& pence?( i was just about old enough to remember when we changed over to decimals,about 7 or 8 i think?,so i can tell my kids& grandkids what 'old' money was) they think im speaking a different language?

jpren6 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:30:53

I Voted remain i think they should revoke article 50 and remain in the EU

Kim19 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:27:44

Not a bit scared but expect many difficulties in transition whichever way we get out, if we ever do. I hope to deal with each downside as it happens to me and enjoy the upsides when they occur too. Anticipate a rocky five years irrespective.

Nannan2 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:24:26

Yes Notspaghetti- but most folk on here seem to be trying to be optimistic,so, i think, showing we aren't too worried,at the moment anyway,We have to keep an open mind,and optimistic view,as otherwise scaremongers would drive us crazy- some folk are just born worriers,but it seems out of our hands now,so we'l just have to trust the powers that be now,and ride it out.we can't live our whole lives being afraid of everything.Its too late to 'not be confident'- we have to trust we will be more than ok,in the end,like others say,there'll be teething troubles,but it will sort out eventually.That's being CONFIDENT! I also agree with Houseseller,who speaks a lot of sense.(as i remember it,my parents voted to join a 'common market'(market meaning,surely,to trade goods?) Not to have every descision& every law we ever made run by the EU before we can act on it!

4allweknow Sun 15-Sept-19 10:22:33

Whether voting In or Out, is the amount of power exerted on members not scary when trying to end membership of a club? I may be naive but the question for the Referendum had no qualification about a "deal". If you don't want to remain in an organisation don't you just give notice and leave. It's our politicians who have turned this into the mess it is (tin hat on here) as those who supported remain just want their own way. I know this is very simplified but to an awful lot of voters that is I think, how it seems. And no, I am not scared, I am fed up!

Margaux Sun 15-Sept-19 10:19:55

Been Bizzy - I too remember this country before we joined the EU. We were the sick man of Europe.

Margaux Sun 15-Sept-19 10:18:35

I voted Remain. I think Cameron is right. And I can't help feeling that if we end up with a No Deal that can never be a clean break with the EU, that will be the clearest indication that the Leavers in his Cabinet lied when they promised us a stride into the light. For we'd then get a stride into chaos.

What a pity that Jeremy didn't put more of that passion of his in the referendum campaign. His heart wasn't in it. And ever since, he's sat on the fence. Not this, and not the other either.

BeenBizzy Sun 15-Sept-19 10:17:18

Am I the only one who remembers this country before we joined the EU community.

Listening to all the propaganda, we voted to join. At the time the reduction in paperwork and the time to get the paperwork from offices of HMG it seemed the only sensible thing to do to aid my husbands business..
In recent years this country has become impoverished, not only with help from UK politicians but with stupid laws and fines and huge contributions to the EU community.
Just compare our roads to those across the water. It's amazing how new they are, and no pot holes.....
There's an awful lot of propaganda out there, there's also a lot of very rich European parliament mp's..
I want to know what has happened to democracy in this country,,,,,, all we are getting is tales of horror of what is to come........ Of course if we do leave with a decent deal there will be other countries wanting to do the same....... Then the huge gravy train will de-rail.
As for the ports, and delays take a look at Australia, if there working system is to be believed the answer is
quite simple. Employ the customs officers needed. There's enough out there on the dole.
The wages will come from the money we save...... Or is this too simple.

Nanniejc1 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:15:26

I’m not worried at all,I always buy localwhere I can & it really won’t worry me if I can’t buy pineapple or exotic fruit for a couple of months.......we can buy from other countries anyway besides the EU.As long as I can buy local meat,seasonal veg etc I can manage.Sick of all the scare stories,a majority voted to leave so that’s what needs to be done as soon as possible.The MPs who are trying to stop it are going against the democratic vote .

grannyJillyT Sun 15-Sept-19 10:14:14

Let’s not lose the plot varian. Calm down.

HurdyGurdy Sun 15-Sept-19 10:14:08

I think no matter which way a person voted, everyone must be a little bit apprehensive about the UK post-Brexit.

I'm not scared but I am a little nervous.

The fact is - no one knows what will happen. Each side is putting forward their version of what will happen, which backs up their decision. But it's (probably informed) speculation.

I suspect that leavers are being overly-optimistic, and remainers are being overly-pessimistic.

Either way, we will get on with it and make the best of what is to come.

graykat Sun 15-Sept-19 10:12:39

Yes, I am extremely worried. Not just about food and medicine shortages, a falling pound making my pension worth less, difficulties travelling and working in Europe, loss of workers' protection and rights but also the kind of society that we will become. Yellowhammer talks about the possibility of civil unrest!!! Trump and his billionaire croneys are rubbing their hands in glee at the thought of getting hold of the NHS and dumping their chlorinated chicken on us. We will lose billions through companies leaving the UK for Europe and jobs with them. I don't understand how anyone can think this is a good idea.

GillT57 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:05:43

Sigh

Tricia5 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:05:21

I voted leave and would do so again. This is a great country and I love Europe just not all the vast machinery of the EU which wastes vast sums of money and is a gravy train for politicians and the bureaucrats unelected. Our fishing industry has been decimated by the EU. The federalists in the EU want to have a vast federal state with their own army etc. Where has our national pride gone. This country can stand on its own feet and all this great remainer battle to ignore the will of the people should be settled by a general election as soon as possible. But the remainer politicians are running scared and are being totally undemocratic.

Nannan2 Sun 15-Sept-19 10:02:23

Grannyannie2010 is right,i think the other countries arent so stupid as to 'cut off their nose to spite their face' as the saying goes,or 'bite the hand',etc,these other countries all DID trade with britain in years before 'common market'& EU,so why wouldnt they now?theyve got to sell to someone,why not us?and also,might not leaving help us in some ways,maybe our own guys/gals can start up buisnesses,to sell and produce?even pharmacuticals?seems we did it after the wars,why not now? I thought(i may be wrong?) that a lot of our businesses & trades went out because things were cheap to obtain by import from other countries? Maybe nows the chance to re-instate these?open these up again?put the 'Great' back in Britain?again? (Gosh i feel like a politician with that speech!?