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morethan2 Sat 14-Sept-19 17:35:07

Before I start I’ll nail my colours to a mast I voted remain. I’m not thrilled with the result but I accept it. I’m a little anxious about all the information of a no deal brexit and I expect most remainers are. I don’t want to start a bun fight but are those of you who voted out are you concerned about a no deal exit? I’m not asking for reassurance just if you feel very confident about the outcome of a no deal.

NotSpaghetti Sun 15-Sept-19 09:58:45

Bbkay the question from the OP is about confidence in no-deal exit.
I think most of us realise we will be leaving, I don't think it's about re-running the in/out argument.

Houseseller Sun 15-Sept-19 09:57:58

When we joined Europe it was for a common market not United States of Europe. We were a great Country then and should still be now. We didn’t asked to be governed by EU rules and have our legal decisions overturned by a EU legal system. Rule Britannia I say

silverlining48 Sun 15-Sept-19 09:56:34

Yes I am concerned, I remember when I was young being fearful through the years of the Cold War, the Cuban missile crisis and the very real possibility of a Third World War. Then in the late 60s came the long Irish unrest with killings and bombings both there and over here. I also recall prior to our joining the EU that we, the UK, was universally regarded as the sick man of Europe.
Thank goodness those days are gone and we have had 40 years of peace in Europe. Joining with Europe made us all strong and united, and that is now going to change and I fear it might not be for the better.

Lilyflower Sun 15-Sept-19 09:56:03

No deal not nio deal!

Lilyflower Sun 15-Sept-19 09:55:35

No, not at all worried about nio deal Brexit.

Pretty terrified of a Corbyn Marxist government stealing the house and my children's futures.

Saggi Sun 15-Sept-19 09:55:32

‘Bobs your uncle ‘...although ‘nobs’ would just about serve in this case!

Saggi Sun 15-Sept-19 09:54:34

Does anyone remember the ‘millenium disaster’ ...you know the one where all computer systems would crash, and the world would implode on us!!! .... that never happened did it?! I voted to leave....but i don’t actually think it will ever happen ...I think they’ll prevaricate til we have a new generation of ‘young ‘ voters ...have another referendum....’nobs your uncle’ ...job done !! But I’m a cynic!

NotSpaghetti Sun 15-Sept-19 09:53:27

You are right, of course Nannan2 - we will survive!
... but the question was about how confident we are about a no-deal. I'd like us to do well as a country, ideally, not just be ok.

BBkay Sun 15-Sept-19 09:48:08

It really doesn't matter what we voted the result was a vote to leave and as we are a democracy we should go with the majority vote. I truly can't see how anyone can argue.

NotSpaghetti Sun 15-Sept-19 09:47:04

I feel the "no deal" option is not what it seems. Basically, as I understand it, no one in the world operates on WRO tariffs. Leaving with no deal means we will be trying to sort our deals out for (who knows) 10 maybe 20 years.
It's not a swift "get out".

Furthermore I'm concerned for our workers rights, pressures on our farmers to lower standards, ecological issues etc... Our government will be keen to make deals. They will naturally be in a rush and grasping at any offers. I don't see it as a good situation. Far better to inherit wider deals via a deal with the EU.

So, morethan3 in answer to your question, no, I'm not at all confident about a no-deal exit.

Nannan2 Sun 15-Sept-19 09:46:24

I was a kid when we went into 'common market' as i think it was called then? (Was it when we went decimal?) Some of you older than me may remember better,im 56,but seems to me we did ok before it,stands to reason,we will probably be ok after it.(we had shops,buisnesses,etc before joining,managed to survive 2 world wars,etc,im sure theres a lot of scaremongering going on by various politicals.Lets just hang on in there,& see how we fare?.yes,government have dallied around too long,left enough time for worries to seep in.I look at this way,theres always someone worse off,we're better off than the 3rd world countries!

GrannyAnnie2010 Sun 15-Sept-19 09:46:18

It's a two-way street. Many seem to think that securing trade deals would be difficult. So, let's say Germany, for example, who's been selling millions of pounds worth of medical supplies to us - making a healthy contribution towards their economy - is going to not even try to reinstate that trade agreement in a different form? They'd prefer to watch their exports to us just drop?

All the EU countries will have to increase their customs/visitors staffing and facilities to accommodate trade with and visitors from the UK.

It cuts both ways, so I don't know why we should wallow in all this angst.

Hm999 Sun 15-Sept-19 09:40:53

The problems of a shortage of medication is terrifying.

BusterTank Sun 15-Sept-19 09:31:52

I'm not worried about a no deal at all . Think of how our country will be millions better of . There will be teething problems in the beginning . There also may shortages of certain items on the shelfs . Start a box with long life products and you won't get caught out . If you prepare for the worst , what can go wrong .

Rosina Sun 15-Sept-19 09:26:40

The waters are now so muddy; we have seen three years of grotesque behaviour from so many MPs who have been putting party interests and private prejudices in front of doing the best for the country and accepting a democtratic vote - that's what we all have to do at election time, like it or not, and however you want to shout about percentages and actual voting numbers. If you listen to an expert you will be convinced of that opinion; listen to another with opposite views and be convinced another way. Various counties have said they are happy to trade with us - Canada was declaring this within days of the referendum. The Commonwealth is bigger than it has ever been - all willing and happy to trade.
Our current danger is delay and prevarication - this destroys confidence. I think the point made about the disastrous state of some European countries is simply to consider what being members of the EU has done for them.

Aepgirl Sun 15-Sept-19 09:26:28

I voted ‘out’ and I am insulted when I am told that I didn’t know what I was voting for.

I’m convinced that Europe needs us more than we need Europe. We are perfectly capable of running our own imports and exports - we’ve done it before. I will not be bullied into thinking that I made the wrong decision. It was a democratic vote in a democratic country.

Sheilasue Sun 15-Sept-19 09:24:13

I did vote to remain but as the leavers won I have accepted that. What concerns my family is the fact that labour and Lib Dem’s are trying to stop us from going. I have said again and again and heard it on the news and fb, we are a democracy and the people have spoken we must go with or without a deal.
I will never vote again after what has been going on over the last months.

jacalpad Sun 15-Sept-19 09:23:21

Thinking nationally, I wonder if there were another referendum whether many would vote differently now or whether the outcome would be the same!

CarlyD7 Sun 15-Sept-19 09:16:38

Sick of hearing the phrase "the will of the people" when only 37% of those eligible to vote wanted Leave but ALL of us have to bear the consequences. Being in the EU has made us the 6th richest economy in the world - but Leavers never let facts get in the way. And, to finish, the report on a no deal brexit, Yellowhammer = an anagram of Orwell Mayhem (which should tell you everything you need to know. One day our grandchildren will hate us for allowing this to happen.

growstuff Sun 15-Sept-19 09:00:23

confused

FWIW I don't think it's a particularly good analogy.

Joelsnan Sun 15-Sept-19 08:30:12

Growstuff
Apologies, I notice that it was GG54 that was making the comment to you.

Joelsnan Sun 15-Sept-19 08:26:46

Growstuff
Strange response.
The post was directed at you specifically because of your posting repeated below:

Not only that, but the child wouldn't be dragging all the others students out too

Am I not allowed to respond to your postings?

Dottynan Sun 15-Sept-19 06:26:16

I'm looking forward to eating curly cucumbers without breaking the law

GabriellaG54 Sun 15-Sept-19 02:01:21

An MP has no superhuman powers. They're ordinary people with faults and failings and greed and jealousy and a host of other unbecoming traits...just like the rest of us.
Any MP who acts otherwise has no principles
MPs are there to enact the will of the majority, who voted to leave.
MPs who act otherwise have no principles.

GabriellaG54 Sun 15-Sept-19 01:54:47

growstuff
I wonder why you asked the question of me and not of any others (who posted before me) who said they weren't scared or fearful for the UK
post Brexit.
Answers on a postcard....