Our responsibility as parents/grandparents

I'm pretty sure most people who are working in the voluntary sector helping vulnerable (in all sorts of ways) people, have seen first hand how things are. It's reality unfortunately and nothing to do with a negative attitude.

Normal people may be worrying that supermarkets will run out of baked beans, a lot of people in this country are living hand to mouth and relying on food banks and it's absolutely shameful.

Money unlocks many privileges. If you can just swan off and get food or medical supplies elsewhere, you arent faced with the same privations.

Rebellious - your son cannot possibly make a 'good case' for no voting for the over 55s. That is APPALLING. At 55 a person may well have 40 more years of life ahead of them and is surely entitled to a view on how those years should be spent, government-wise. He needs reminding that in the case of women, it was only in his own great-grandparents' generation that we didn't even have the vote on the same basis as men until 1928. What else can he make a good case for? A cull of the over 70s? FFS set him right. His view is bordering on fascist.

Sb74
Do you really think that worrying about mortgages and employment are the only things that will upset the 'man or woman on the street' who is pessimistic about Brexit?
The notion of the present and possible future dearth of medicines seems to have a huge following on here, as does the possible lack of foodstuffs.
Do you not think that MPs and their family members have medication and food needs too?
They would, if the doom-mongers are correct, have to undergo the same privations in regards to most things that the rest of us would.
It won't happen but carry on banging the drum for doom and a negative attitude.

I definitely think it's important to talk to younger people and to think about their futures before voting. But ultimately it has to be your own responsibility.

With all due respect, leaving the eu will not change any of those things @oopsminty.

I would be interested to see the brexit voting outcome of those at working age only. I think it would be a whole different story to where we find ourselves now. And We are the population that will suffer most.

I live in GB and can confirm, I am a mess.

Many elderly people are not having the best of times due to illness, loneliness and isolation.

And now we're suggesting their vote is unnecessary.

Ageist?

I only voted in the referendum the same way as my AC because they will be around longer to reap the benefits?

In a GE I put my cross where I think fit.

Ginger79, in all probability Mr.Gravy and I shall still be paying taxes so I see no reason why we should not be able to vote!!!

Oopsminty
What on earth has your son being a profess*o*r got to do with the thread?
Are you saying that his opinion has more validity than anyone elses in this household ?

And with brexit it could very much change how the UK is. It will take a good few years before things are settled m, meanwhile who knows what will happen? A recession, redundancies, homelessness, more food banks, less staff for NHS which is already strained resource-wise. Health care professionals are going back to Europe in droves because they are sick of Brexit - and we are massively under resource already. But those with mortgages paid off, nice pensions, just enjoying life probably won’t even notice the nightmare the rest of the country will be put through, yet a large amount of leave votes were the older population i believe. So thanks everyone for that.

IMO we shouldn't have to vote after the age of 80.I realise it will not be popular but I could do without the worry

Adult children story

Mmmm. People who live in the uk think we are in a mess too. I for one. I don’t mean voting generally but I think brexit could have been those pre retirement.

I vote how I want to vote. The outcome of elections doesn't necessarily mean the future will be better or worse. I have instilled values of self sufficiency in my sons and they have learned. And only voting until retirement? That is ridiculous. People who don't live in the US think we are a mess. We Are Not.

And when I say sitting pretty I mean they no longer have to worry about mortgages or employment.

Adult children I think.

It’s not nasty jealousy. I’m happy for anyone’s good fortune but is it right that those sitting pretty make decisions that will pretty much not affect them but could be detrimental to others? I don’t think it is.

AC? Am I duh! I'm new here and can't see it in the list of acronyms.

Am horrified that "wise old birds" think their AC and GC are wiser than themselves.
Very strange.

Your AC and GC have no idea how they themselves might vote in 20 years time.
Life changes.
Also its not just lately we have made a mess of things....our present troubles go back a lot further than the last 20 years.

No,as 1 daughter voted leave, 1 daughter voted remain both have children. I voted for what I thought best in the long term.

I find it strange that families do not discuss political issues. As a family we discuss everything that is topical or of special interest to us. We all happened to vote the same way but one of us did not influence the other. Maybe it is that we just think the same way about most things.

I vote for what I believe to be the right thing. We have more experience than our children.
However my 2 sons hold totally different views to each other so I couldn't please both anyway!

Rebellious. I wonder if your son will feel the same at retirement age.

My son, a Professer, knows that any comment like that would go down like a lead balloon in this household.

No need for disrespect.

I feel the entire house of every persuasion have shown themselves to be self serving and inept. I think this must be the first time they have had to truly think about the country and have been shown to be wanting.